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moonshots ep155 lives after ai revolution transcript

Wed Mar 12 2025 20:00:00 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) ·transcript ·source: Moonshots Podcast

please we have yes well thank you thank [Applause] you thank you you have some questions in the back over there to young ladies I am not a leader I am very confused ah good you’re confused we’ll we’ll we’ll shed some light you know watching and listening you I ask myself why I want to live a decade more if I’m not going to do anything because robots are going to think for me robots are going to do at the job 24 hours and I mean I study Physics so I’m not not a person that only works by hands my mind

[00:01:01] had to work to but I see all these and it’s perfect to find out about diseases for people not suffering but then what are we going to do with the people that last their life for longer and we have new mors and we have the robots that are going to work so what are all those people going to do H how they will live I cannot understand that I am very confused two thoughts for you and I appreciate what you’re saying because I think the greatest challenge we’re going to face is one of purpose coming forward and I think one of the things we have to do is to uplevel our Ambitions uplevel our purpose first of all the majority of world we’re lucky the majority of the world are doing jobs that they don’t love they never dreamed about

[00:02:00] it’s what puts food on the table for them it’s what gives them insurance they didn’t dream about you know uh whatever the job might be and so one of the goals is how do we allow people to separate what I love doing from what I have to do to survive and work the second thing that’s important to realize is our lives today extraordinarily different if you gone back to somebody 100 years ago who had to plant their own foods and raise their livestock um their life if you said this is the lives were were we have today they would have a hard time understanding the purpose of our life today compared to what it was like maybe not a 100 years maybe 200 years ago you know work is a recent invention

[00:03:00] uh before for most of human existence uh life was about survival you know technology is the means by which we take a vacation from survival we’re going to have to learn how do we partner with technology to set objectives and goals far beyond our current expectations I don’t have an answer but I do know that it’s on our watch this is our responsibilities this is coming there’s no onoff switch there’s no velocity switch this progression is happening like it or not and so we have to be focusing on how does it impact our families our Nations and and Humanity as a whole please hi thank you um I have a question you said AI is taking all the information from data from Instagram

[00:04:00] Twitter and information that everyone puts around and that’s where my worry comes because the information that’s coming there it’s not necessarily confirmed verified or credible and most of the people that put a lot of information there have enough time to put information that it’s sometimes as they say in the it business what you if you put garbage in garbage out and that’s where I’m worried that that some of the data that might come in a lot of intern of artificial intelligence data that we take as a base might come with trash what are we doing about it or what are the people involved in that world right now assuring us that what’s coming out is really credible I hear you um there’s a friend of mine Mo gdat he wrote a book called scary smart uh and one of the analogies he

[00:05:01] talks about is that uh we are raising a new child with these AI systems and the values you teach that child uh the knowledge you give it the food you give it shapes its life he says for example in the story of Superman Superman lands in Kansas he’s raised by a very loving God-fearing uh family the Kent family becomes a superhero if that same uh super being from Krypton had landed in the Bronx in a drug Den he would become a super villain it’s very important what we how we teach our AI systems what values we give it I do believe in the final result this is how I think about it that the most intelligent systems as they mature to digital super intelligence will be abundance loving will be peace loving I think with greater intelligence comes a greater

[00:06:00] appreciation for life my concern is not artificial intelligence it’s human stupidity first and foremost and it’s it’s the next five years that I’m the most concerned about as these AI systems are coming online and people are beginning to use them for nefarious reasons I think in the long term we’re fine I think it’s the next five six seven years that we have to be critically careful about and there is no answer there right Elon says we need to build our AIS to be maximally curious and Truth seeking sounds great not sure what that really means okay please over there and then we’ll come yeah you guys will cut me off when when you okay can you hear me yes yeah um you spent a lot of time illustrating us about human intelligence and long it I’d

[00:07:00] like just to hear a couple of of your thoughts on our interaction with nature with the environment if we extend Life by 10 or 50 years do you see the way things are going as human life sustainable in in the long term in the planet thank you um so yes I spend my life deeply in the tech world and in the biotech world and I’m uh I think one of the things that we have the ability to do is use technology to reduce the burden that humans have on the planet and to maintain our planet today for example onethird of the non- I land mass onethird of our land is used to grow crops to sustain our livestock right and so I could I could be on stage and I am on stage for 5 days

[00:08:01] talking about how do we produce the next generation of foods with vertical Farms with cultured Meats right from a stem cell to instead of growing an entire cow an entire pig an entire chicken we’re just going to grow the meat product and we’re going to make it the best protein with the best fats um and so we can have this positive impact uh I think we are we are emotional beings and being in nature is critically important the challenge is I don’t know how many folks here have teenagers or young kids I’m curious how many folks here how much do they spend on the on video games right um that’s the world they’re living into and it’s our responsibility to create that balance for them I’ll I’ll leave it at that if I could please yes and then we’ll come here hi Peter hi um

[00:09:00] great talk love love what you shared I think you have seated here a lot of uh people that have the potential and the opportunity to change the future for Latin America and if you were to start a country or a set of companies knowing what you know now and what’s coming and the age and the era that we’re living what would be the things that you would focus on to maximize this opportunity great question uh I have two answers first last week uh Abu Dhabi announced they’re going to uh transform their n their nation state to an AI governance so AI is going to be driving all the decision making so if you were starting again I would start with AI as the fundamental basis for the governance and operations of a country and start there um the best Educators in the world will become AIS

[00:10:00] if you think about this Google uh is the identical for the wealthiest children and for the poorest children on the planet it’s fully democratized right in the same way we’re going to see AI being the most powerful teacher on the planet it’s going to know your children’s favorite colors their language skills their movie stars they’ll customize everything and so the ability for an AI to become your educator an AI will become your best physician and the cost of education and the cost of Medical Care will precipitously drop toward zero um if I were building a nation I had this conversation with uh El Salvador’s amazing president last night uh I would build this as a longevity Health country I would basically say let’s bring it’s got the regulatory capabilities let’s bring the best scientists here the best entrepreneurs here let’s create a a regulatory Arbitrage that makes this the place that the

[00:11:02] world’s billionaires and the world’s uh greatest uh leaders come to because the best health services are here right that the The Cutting Edge of uh of longevity science takes place here and in the environment of this beautiful environment because mental health and being one with nature is so important so those are the two areas it it comes back to me you know Ai and Longevity are the two mult trillion dollar markets coming thank you thank you please thank you Peter oh oh please please ladies first ladies first please all right um talk talk to us about the economics of of longevity um right now it seems like this is a conversation that only the upper class can entertain yeah it is so expensive yeah like how much does it cost to go to Fountain life for yeah full body checkup it’s many

[00:12:01] tens of so let me let me let me address that so right now Fountain life is uh 19,500 bucks 20K uh for the upload but you get a medical team with you for the year you get a a a functional medicine doctor nurse dietician and health coach so it’s a whole team inexpensive we have a version of it for $6,500 it will demonetize over time the to answer your question specifically the current belief is is that when we get to uh real longevity treatments real treatments that can reverse your epigenetic age it is likely to be a gene therapy um it’s a mechanism by which we’re going to come into the cells of your body 40 trillion human cells and we’re going to modify uh your genetics to set you back to more youthful state today Gene therapies for rare diseases is expensive it’s like a million dollar $2 million

[00:13:00] however we have a proof point of a gene therapy that was made for a dollar and this is the MRNA vaccines when you are producing something at the scale of billions of doses the price drops down to near zero and so the MRNA covid vaccines are Gene therapies there was introducing nucleic acids into the cells that were modifying your your your genome forget about the issues of of vaccines for a moment uh and there’s one thing we have as an advantage all 8 billion people on earth have the same disease of aging and so if something works for someone in Manhattan it’s going to work for someone in El Salvador and someone in mosambique and so the the belief and the goal is that these Therapeutics when they actually work are going to be cheap and available to everybody same thing happens in

[00:14:00] technology the first cell phone is a briefcase and it costs you know $100,000 and it drops a call every block then when it gets really good there’s 8 billion of them s billion of them and it costs 40 bucks so so by when do you think like longevity for all would be possible I think we’ll see this by 20 240 I think we’ll see this in I think the first few years when things don’t work so well the richest people in the world will try it there’ll be the guinea pigs and then by the time it starts working really well that it the prices will drop precipitously there was a study done by by uh London School of Business Oxford and Harvard that said adding one productive year of longevity uh is worth $38 trillion to the global economy and so imagine if at the top of your game you’re not forced to retire you have you you feel amazing you’ve got

[00:15:00] the energy you’ve got the best network you’ve ever had why would you ever want to retire right and so you remain productive in society whatever that means with the robots and the AIS I don’t know yet thank you please thank you Peter my question is around what’s your perspective around education the future yeah and how do we prepare our kids for a life AB abundancy yeah ensuring they have critical thinking they have the emotional part can you share some light on that please yes and this will be our our last question um I think our Educational Systems are massively broken I think they are not preparing our kids for the future that they are about to inherit um when you ask me if you ask me what am I teaching my 13-year-olds um it’s very different I’m not teaching them about AI or biotechnology the number one thing I want them to learn is what their passion is because if

[00:16:02] they’re clear I at age nine my passion was space you know I saw Star Trek the Apollo program and that was it I was off and everything I’ve ever done was driven by that internal innate motivation so helping your kids find their purpose is because technolog is going to get better and better and better and at the end of the day um they’ll use whatever the latest technology is to enable their purpose and this is true for families it’s true for CEOs it’s true for everybody the second thing is asking them to learn how to how to ask great questions in a world where you can know anything in a world of a trillion sensors where AI enabled and you can know anything asking the best questions differentiates you it’s not what you know it’s the questions you ask so I teach that to my kids and I I I teach that with the CEOs I mentor and so for

[00:17:00] me those are like the two fundamental things having said that I think that uh that schools should not fear use of ai ai is not uh you know a shackle it’s a rocketship um but what happens is if you’re teaching this and you say I’m going to use Ai and it makes it really easy well then no let’s teach this and use AI to get here right so it’s how do we how do we reinvent the educational experience in the future I’ll give one last example we’re going to be living in Virtual Worlds and so my my parents and great grandparents and family comes from from Greece and if I want to someday understand my Greek Heritage or my my kids understand Greek Heritage today they can open up a book and and read about it boring or in the future they put on a pair of app generation 10 VR

[00:18:01] glasses and they’re in ancient Greece and they’re in the Acropolis in the AA and there’s a guy sitting on a block of white marble over there in a toga and he says come over here and I go over and he says hi I’m Socrates let me show you around and I live the experience with them I mean this is where we’re going to go with education whatever you want to learn I I’ll leave you on this last thought please this weekend tonight not tonight this weekend next week open up Gemini 2 or chat GPT or Claude 3.5 and have a conversation take a chance to educate yourself on anything like tell me about AI tell and then just go down the rabbit hole infinitely infinitely patient anyway an honor to be here look forward to meeting all of you through the day one one last question please all right please it’s your it’s your event so yes as you know Chad GP is my besti

[00:19:01] so obviously I have to bring her to your wonderful presentation and I ask her what would you ask Peter diamandis if you had the opportunity and she said here’s what I ask my dear you often talk about abundance and exponential technology solving Humanity’s biggest challenges but given geopolitical instability regul regulatory barriers and societal resistance to change what do you see as the biggest obstacle preventing this future from happening faster yes so human St human St tell your bestie I appreciate wait wait wait please so I I I appreciate I appreciate your question chat GPT um so human stubbornness and human pride emotions are probably the greatest block that we have you know one of the things

[00:20:01] that I love about the large language models is their ability to help us think differently one of the experiments I did I don’t know a month or two ago I said listen I’m about to go into Israeli Palestinian negotiations how would you negotiate that how would you uh provide me a uh a a logical construct and it’s amazing right if you’re on the right and someone’s on the left you can ask the AI to help how would you explain this to someone on the other side to make it so that they understand it or how can I explain this to my wife in a way that she’ll appreciate it and we don’t know how to think other than the way we know how to think but the AI models can help us think about things differently you can tonight go and say this is my company this is what we do uh how would I how am

[00:21:02] I most likely to be disrupted and what should I do to prevent that how would Steve Jobs solve the problem I’m I’m facing the ability to have an AI system help you think differently is one of the greatest assets that we’re going to be using it for so again with thank you so much for your attention I’m grateful [Music]