moonshots ep154 will i am van jones ai transcript

you came forward with an idea called make wakanda real the majority of Youth on Earth is in Africa a new civilization is being born as we speak music icon Tech innovator and creative Visionary will am is shaping the future one hit and one Tech breakthrough at a time and he’s joined by Van Jones CNN commentator social justice Advocate and best-selling author driving change at the intersection of politics media and reform this new human civilization that’s coming into being is it going to be human is it going to be civilized I’ve never seen equality in my life until now 99% of black kids don’t know anything about Ai and 99% of white kids don’t either Nigeria is going to Boom Ghana’s going to Boom Zimbabwe back to make wakonda real it’s already started China’s already there we’re in danger of creating a a human civilization that has an awful lot of data and very little wisdom that’s the reason why I’m not worried about AI because it’s going to unlock that superhuman I don’t think people are prepared for how fast things are going to change [Music] [00:01:02] now that’s a moonshot ladies and gentlemen I think most of you know that the news media is delivering negative news to us all the time because we PID 10 times more attention to negative news than positive news for me the only news worthwhile that’s true and impacting humanity is the news of Science and Technology that’s what I pay attention to and every week I put out two blogs one on AI and exponential Tech and one on Longevity if this is of interest to you and it’s available totally for free please join me subscribe at Dam andis.com subscribe that’s DM andis.com subscribe all right let’s go back to the episode everybody Welcome to moonshots today I’m having a conversation with two incredible leaders in the technology and creative world the first is Will I Am a multi-g Grammy award-winning artist from the blackeyed peas perhaps the most compelling thinker on the convergence of Technology culture and education just to

[00:02:01] hear him speak about the way he thinks around Ai and technology and the world about us is a beautiful thing I’m also joined by Van Jones a 13-year veteran with CNN a political commentator social activist uh working an intersection of media technology and Justice we’re going to be talking about the impact of AI on creating a true meritocracy in the world and how do we use AI to uplift every man woman and child in the global South in Africa and how we make AI something that enables us to create a world where we’re not bombarded by the negative news you know I’m going to be going in with Van Jones talking about the crisis News Network CNN he’s going to tell me his perspective about why the news is so negative let’s jump into this conversation with two incredible Visionary individuals hey guys welcome uh let’s see last time I saw you van was at Google Zeitgeist yes and uh we kicked off not only just a partnership sh but a

[00:03:00] friendship yeah absolutely it was it was it was awesome I’ve been recommending your book the future is faster than you think to literally everybody and I didn’t for some I didn’t know you you’re were gonna be there I come around the corner and there’s Peter diamandes I was like was like holy crap so um no it’s it’s uh it’s been extraordinary to get a chance to have my my team and your team working together to get these exponential uh thinking uh Concepts out to folks who just have missed the memo uh but who are wide open I tell you one thing that’s amazing is uh folks from communities that have been overlooked or under underestimated uh disruption is great for them yeah a chance to catch up chance to catch up it’s like it’s like we got gonna disrupt the status quo we’re gonna disrupt these schools great you know nobody nobody’s holding back so it’s awesome yeah and will last time I saw you you were in the ancient Greek stadium in Athens uh for first for the first Global and you were blasting at 2 billion death

[00:04:00] yeah that was that was that was magical um that was amazing we just announced uh Panama yeah I saw that so Panama will be this year for the robotics um and for people who don’t know uh this is first robotics this is Dean cayman’s uh gig he’s the uh the Grand Puba of first but but here will you have been one of the greatest amplifiers and you how many teams do you fund uh um over 500 wow and we have served about 15,000 students in uh La District amazing um we’ve sent kids to Dartmouth to Brown Stanford for uh for a stem curriculum and uh yeah can continue continue the work we’ll talk about this our hunch was right like when we started in 2008 that the world will be more technological and how do you prepare folks for this technological world and here we are in the in the midst of a

[00:05:02] technological transformation on a societal level that will change how we work how we um how we do pretty much everything yeah how we how we’re parents how we raise our kids how we govern our Nations everything yeah every single industry is going to change you know one thing is I don’t think people are prepared for how fast things are going to change uh you know I mean you will you’ve been at the front end building companies and Building Technology uh to enable creatives to use this Tech to become more creative and to go faster and deeper and bigger and Global uh and that’s been and that’s been beautiful I I grabbed two quotes from each of you that I thought was really powerful and Van this is the one I heard and I’ve tweeted and I’ve told everybody about it uh I heard you say this at at Zeitgeist at Google Zeitgeist and it’s AI is not not a hand grenade

[00:06:00] that blows up your life it’s a jetpack to set you free yeah absolutely well I mean certainly if we choose it to be that it definitely can be that you know one of the things about uh Will I Am uh I never heard of AI except it’s so maybe some abstract science fiction stuff and um and so he asked me to come over to FYI which is here in Los Angeles and it’s kind of like this incredible beehive of activity and creatives and artist and Tech technological people and he sat sat me down and showed me his Ai and this was uh what four or five years ago I saw an early early version on your phone yeah and and and I was like what what what what I was like I thought you going to you know hit me with a new beat or something like a new beat in human civilization I’m like what the hell so uh we build hardware and software yeah it’s nuts and so um that really I mean I I had the ch to uh I did yes we code

[00:07:02] working with Prince you know just trying to get some just basic you know coding stuff going but he had gone to a completely different level and um you know it’s just remarkable and so you now you know people are getting to catch up to the beginning of his first sentence and he’s like three you know trilogies later his own Journey definitely right I mean you’re five six years solidly into this and you just started your podcast with your AI co-host what’s your what’s your AI co-host name so yeah that the first the first Persona agent that we built was Fiona that’s right and now we have uh just based on FYI we gonna run out of f f name so we have Fiona Felicia Fiera Finn um um yeah Phillip um Felix this guy named feto feto is like Ultra like expressive the

[00:08:01] same with Felicia yeah Felicia is like the most colorful expressive agent that we have and um we moved out of FS now we have Mr K for um s like Men In Black here yeah so Mr Mr K is a uh in collaboration with our our partnership with LG LG Mr K is Korean um um all things Korea South Korea K-pop um but it’s a LG agent Persona U because we we we we’re deploying our AI on their speakers and eventually TVs and then we have um other other partners that we’re about to announce but yeah so Fiona was the first agent Persona that we built you imagine everybody’s going to end up having uh their buddies friends as as AI agents your most close Confidant I mean the first AI agent version I’ve ever heard of my favorite is Jarvis from Iron

[00:09:03] Man right Jarvis is there Jarvis takes you from wherever you are to wherever you want to go it’s a jetpack right it’s it’s it’s leveling the playing field and and since Iron Man is part of the Avengers Let’s uh let’s go there uh you came forward with an idea called make wakanda real yes uh that that was good I like how you did that thank you thank you SM smooth he smooth thank you listen there’s no one smoother than you my friend like wow that works that was that was nice how you did so for those who haven’t heard of your program your effort uh what is it and uh and why are you doing it because it’s going to set the basis for this whole conversation well um will I am is so far ahead of like it in a lot of ways in terms of his

[00:10:01] ability to bring culture art spirituality political Consciousness technology and then when you take a step back from him there’s a big Gulf in terms of what’s going on in the black community and the kind of conversations that’s going on and so for me I thought it was really important since we have someone who’s already such a Pioneer how do you get other people at least engaging with the conversation well luckily um wakanda uh which is you know in the Marvel superhero Universe uh it’s a black African nation that is the most technologically advanced in the world uh they’re using technology for good they’re a heroic country um they also have culture I’m like like this I said we should use this metaphor um as an answer back to the despair an answer back to the loss of feeling of being left behind and and and and and a reality of of being left behind in a lot

[00:11:01] of ways where you know we’re past Obama you know it’s not a hope and change kind of moment and there’s a lot of people who are really giving up a politics of of resentment in the black community a politics of Despair in the black community and how do you fix that what you got to fix it with hope but it’s got to be hope that has something to do with with with today yeah and so uh about a year and a half ago uh we said well why don’t we go to FYI where I got my brain blown open with all this stuff and just bring the whole Community there and he opened the doors and we had a simple event called make wakanda real and it was an amazing thing you know several hundred people showed up from the community we could not get them to leave and it was and and and this guy breaks out in the middle of of you know we’re doing our our talk our interview and with giving me no notice as usual he just pulls out his phone and the Persona on his phone starts they start having a debate and arguments and the people’s

[00:12:00] Jaws are hanging on the ground nobody ever seen anything like this before I think I’ve seen the video clip yeah and it just and it just and it really it really started something so now we have this whole movement now that came out out of out of a Will I Am shop everybody Peter here if you’re enjoying this episode please help me get the message of abundance out to the world we’re truly living during the most extraordinary time ever in human history and I want to get this mindset out to everyone please subscribe and follow wherever you get your podcasts and turn on notifications so we can let you know when the next episode is being dropped all right back to our episode so will take it take it a step further what’s your what success look like for this uh for this effort in five years time I don’t think anybody can predict 10 years but five years maybe that’s a deep one um first we have to like address growth and what’s actually happening on continent of Africa and what’s not

[00:13:01] happening on the continent of Africa but this is beyond just Africa this is inner city youth in LA in Atlanta yeah every place right yeah but make wakanda real is based on this wakanda yes okay and this growth that’s happening on Earth in Africa the majority of Youth on Earth is in Africa yeah that means 20 40 2050 the majority of the folks that are you know um leading companies working at companies because of the youth population in Africa is going to be African I I I think people don’t realize demographics here uh and I just want to take a second to address that we’ve got China was a has been a dominant player uh India has overtaken China in terms of the largest Nation on the planet with now 1.41 billion people the majority of the world putting Africa

[00:14:01] aside is in a retrenchment mode the population is dropping throughout the rest of Asia most of Europe the US and so forth and I’ve said this before I think India is going to surpass China and then what surpasses that ultimately is africah because of Africa’s youth because of its resources those two things together give it sort of this demographics and Destiny so when you put that into my in into in the context make wonda world is what so that means 2060 a lot of people are going to look half black half Chinese M half black half Indian which is awesome y it’s a beautiful mix so that collaboration that’s going to help Africa boom is at China Africa it’s already happening this is the the what do you call it the Bel Belt Road program in

[00:15:01] China it’s already happening yeah that’s awesome is it India and Africa that’s that’s going to be an amazing collaboration is it African-American mhm um and that’s what make Ronda real is for African-Americans barring from a Disney film on the Black Panthers MH which in America the Black Panthers were like dunzo American infiltration that’s interesting right because so just using using these metaphors time time time has has has dulled that one down and and uh The Avengers has brought black panther to have a positive conation so so you know you see the I started there to show you where like where Africa is the continent MH then there’s the Congo so if there was a re a mineral rare mineral that is metaphorically like

[00:16:01] car which vibranium it’s what’s happening in the Congo now so that metaphor is not like uh you know it’s not it’s not a huge stretch it’s real it’s pretty real for those who don’t know I mean you’re you’re mining various uh Elements and Minerals in the Congo that are required for your cell phone your CPUs your gpus yeah and so and that being said you said gpus I’mma land this fact on on your word there there are no gpus on the continent none yeah so here we are talking about make Ronda real and the African continent has no gpus so I partnered with this guy by the name of strive I know strive yeah yeah so they’re going to be re uh they’re the cassava is our our partner to launch FYI on the continent and on March 17th we have an announcement to bring a cluster of gpus to the continent and we’ll

[00:17:02] announce our partner on March 17th and bringing you know the first you know Mega cluster of of uh gpus to the to the continent there’ll be like four nations four or five nations that we’re going to where do you think you’ll base them um Nigeria Egypt basically the entrepreneurial more entrepreneurial Nations there yeah you know I just did a uh hour and a half panel with Robert Smith chairman of Vista yeah he was with us at daos yeah and I was with him last week in Miami at the FI Summit well the second richest black man in the world yes M multi-billionaire genius he is brilliant oh in the states second in the St oh be first in the states yeah there’s like other Africans that were Richard than him in Africa on the resource economy and land and so forth but anyway the point is uh we had a conversation about uh how do you support the global South in getting

[00:18:00] access to this technology to their own large language models to their own gpus and um one of the biggest questions is today’s large largest uh llms are based upon a western Cannon yeah and um there’s a need for cultural preservation this is beyond just Africa it’s for every country in the world how do you preserve the culture of a country and train up uh a set of large language models for that country that are based in how do you how do you go and capture the stories of the grandmothers and grandfathers in in a lot of countries which have no written language even look I am it’s one want to add um first of all I think that a new civilization is being born as we speak um we were talking about you know kids um um I have two little kids one’s in one’s three

[00:19:02] years old just got a diapers the other one’s still in diapers um they’re not going to live in the same human civilization I grew up in yeah um my daughter’s first crush is probably going to be an AI right like you got got get your brain ready yeah and yeah I I I my my two boys are 13 and my wife and I were worried about you know what is it going to be be like for them and I’m I’m concerned pornography when I was growing up was a Playboy yeah to go buy it at the store when nobody’s looking yeah exactly now it’s in your back pocket all day it’s crazy yeah all and so so so you have that but if you think about it okay I’ve got these two little people um my my daughter’s first crush May well be in AI when it’s time for her to have children grandkids for me she may open up a laptop or do some kind of holographic interface and with Tech tools she might design my grandkids okay

[00:20:02] and then you know heaven forbid when she you know dies in 90 years 100 years let’s go further than that this is show too 120 years 150 years she might be buried on the moon or on Mars yeah because by then we’ll be a fully fath bearing civilization so that’s not the civilization I grew up in yeah okay so so so the question is this new human civilization that’s coming into being is it going to be human is it going to be civilized yeah that’s the question that all of us have a chance to answer over the next you know decade or so and so part of what I think we got wrong in the civilization that we’re leaving is we we left a lot of people out yeah um so there’s a lot of overlooked underestimated communities including the folks that will I am’s been working with for you know since 2008 who have genius who have Insight who have creativity who have ideas who have big problems which as you always point out means there’s big Solutions available biggest problems

[00:21:01] or the biggest biggest Sol you teaching about and so what what does that mean what that means is that if you take this the most powerful creative tools which is AI and all this sort of stuff and you give it to and connected to these communities that are so powerful in their creativity and their need you could have a human civilization that is uh at peace with itself at peace with the Earth you could solve so many problems but it nothing good happens for poor folks and marginal Folks by accident you’ve got to have intention you’ve got to have strategy I hear a lot of people talking about all the good of AI but what I like about what Will I Am is doing what we’re trying to do make wand real you actually have to get in there and pull people into this conversation and that and once you do that what happens you the sky’s a limit you that’s right well do you see this as a great leveling force of the only the only reparations we hav going to get yeah I mean one things what things you said is AI is set of tools to help you

[00:22:01] on your path right um you’ve been at the Forefront of traditional media uh traditional creative then you’ve taken it to non-traditional creative and you’ve been optimistic about AI most of the other people in the world in traditional media and creative are scared shitless of AI I could see why they’re why they are afraid right it’s there’s all unknowns all the storytelling that was done really amazing like Hollywood did an awesome job scaring the [ __ ] out of us yeah thank you thank you James Cameron there so let’s take James Cameron um his perspective of AI where one company is dominant one product is taking over and then they take uh George Lucas’s well there’s lots of AIS lots of robots man it’s a democratic one can we

[00:23:00] take Star Trek as well Star Trek as well yeah lots of AIS I think I think the future looks more like Star Wars and Star Trek than it does Terminator because Terminator and the Matrix that’s the same film yeah AI oppression of humans yeah it’s one company yes mess up the whole entire civilization and everyone’s in a in some pod living life in The Matrix mhm so Terminator Matrix same movie Yes prequel sequel Star Wars there’s lots of robots lots of companies like you could say it’s driving yes there’s an Empire but what you have in that movie are Jedi you have this like human evolution MH where it’s like everything that was in Star Wars you could connect that to Aladdin you

[00:24:02] could say hey what was what was Theory um myth that some Genie hops out of some device to Grant your wishes you could say that that was productized and made a product that everyone could use in the world of Star Wars where in Aladdin it was like this coveted there’s one oh my gosh you have that one then they you know scaled it made it products it grew now it’s in machines um but if you use that theory those thesis those metaphors those myths there’s something in Star Wars that is in scriptures that is like this hyper spiritual being that there is now practice how to do how to acheve Joseph Campbell’s you know hero her yeah myth hero Hero’s hero’s journey yeah so I the the star the the the

[00:25:00] Terminator Matrix uh humans have given up on their spiritual growth that they just rely on machine so much that the machine is now taken over to the point where oh [ __ ] I used to remember have reality that we was living let’s plug into that simulation that’s that’s Terminator Matrix yeah the Star Wars if we’re going to base things on Films I I go with that one because that one has this other one that’s like yo how do we how do we Jed how do we make Jedi real wak make wakanda real is awesome but then after that we we Jedi bro and fast forward from that from that technical dependence and making devices and equipment and tools we still will be faced with how do we grow we’ve seen machines grow we’ve seen the path the the investment that it takes to you know refine sand to create silicone refin of some type of mineral to create

[00:26:02] lithium battery imagine imagine I came up in here and I was like hey yo so like and S dripping off my hand and [  ] I got a rock in his hand you like yo what the [  ] you doing what like yo talking this [  ] bro like yo are you [  ] serious you sitting there talking and saying yo yo check will out you need to check him in check him out check him in no I don’t think you understand I’m refining it in my mind and right that’s literally what you’re doing you’re holding refined Rare Minerals yes throwing Advanced algorithms mathematics on it and electricity and you could speak to it we’re going to get to a point where we’re like look what we can do with minerals how do we advance our spiritual capacity and our and unlock more of our new network to be able to be that to where like that’s the reason why I’m not worried about AI it’s because it’s going to unlock that superhuman yeah not super intelligence we’ve seen it in scriptures we’ve seen it and and in myths the things that you know the

[00:27:01] people that we praise and I’m not being Blasphemous but in the Bible it says that you too could create Miracles as well yes but how do you do that what is the unlock to do that we are going to face that future right around the corner do you think we’re living in a time that is more extraordinary moving faster than any time in human history or do you think our you know our equivalent 100 years ago felt that same way when the car and the airplane and all was coming online I think it’s different and I think just just checking I think I had this conversation with Neil grass Tyson and he was like no every generation feels like they’re at the T pick of the peak of the curve here I think it’s I think uh what we’re feeling yeah it’s literally like a hundred years so every like 1920 to 2025 yeah like what was popping off in 20 1925 with the World’s Fair and all

[00:28:01] futurism the concept of future happened in n in the early 1900s the concept of future was not 1825 yeah this concept of tomorrow tomorrow land yeah is 1925 and and world world’s fairs and and technology and that that Industrial Revolution and to to that person they thought oh my gosh this is it this this is the Pinnacle of humanity look at what we’re doing yeah we could we could we could have our way with um Stone and craft we have our way with you know Alchemy the things that we’re look what we can do we could refine aluminum and and and build uh uh mend it and fly in it we could we could we could transport um things on steam engines and trains like we could defy gravity at the at the highest speak my words in one device and it comes out the other side think about

[00:29:02] what the world was like in 1925 imagine Tesla not elon’s Tesla Nicola Tesla imagine this dude like the warden Tower imagine like yo yo yo yo check this out like wireless electricity y’all and then the freaking the westing house and the JP Morgans are like yo this guy’s G this guy’s [ __ ] crazy put us out of business bro this guy’s wacko he’s never going to like imagine what they thought of Tesla like yo you want to give away that’s our business bro like what they say philanthropy like what’s the business model in free imagine what he was thinking about you know electromagnetic spectrum and and the the concept of like RGB and the other side of of blue which uh which is a violet and ultraviolet light and the other side of red which is like you know infrared and then microwaves and then all the different electromagnetic frequencies and the and the machines you could build on those frequencies that’s coming from the Sun imagine what the world world was like in 1925 and here we are in 2025 yeah and we are thinking

[00:30:02] like yo we have a whole new way of compute we have a whole new way of like advanced mathematics same thing happened with Mr Al Jabar at the time when they were you know [ __ ] around with advanced mathematics then which where we have our you know Aramaic Abracadabra I create as I speak yes like the the same we we’ve been in some version of this in the past yeah I I one of my favorite slides that I use and when I’m speaking to crowds is I I show different images of what’s going on today and I say our ancestors would view us as Gods that’s right the stuff we did between breakfast and lunch today is Godlike compared to just a few decades back and people need to need to realize that I mean literally the you’ve have millions of dollars worth of tech on your phone for free that you would have paid for at Radio Shack you know a couple decades back if you remember the Radio Shack yeah uh I wish instead of yeah speaking of Radio

[00:31:02] Shack you just throwing up things that I’m just slam dunking Radio Shack if if I was 18 years old 15 years old going to the Guitar Center versus going to Radio Shack I wish I was hanging out and dreaming about going to Radio Shack because I would have being able to take those bits and pieces of equipment and circuit boards because that’s not at the ready right now components yeah is there’s no store for components right now it it drives me nuts right if you want to make some [  ] right now and ain’t like yo let’s go to the component shop there’s no like yeah Home Depot got wood nail screws as far as like consumer electronics and and chips it was fries for a while fries was that that’s dunzo yeah it’s gone like component shop [  ] out of here the other stuff I hate is that there’s no place I can go to buy pure chemicals for my kids to play with chemistry you know when I was when I was

[00:32:01] at my kid’s age I had access to potassium nitrate potassium chlorate magnesium sulfur I used to build stuff and blow [ __ ] up all the time and it was fun I learned now I’d be put in jail yeah yeah that’s um take me back to make wakanda real well look I mean everybody having access to components that’ll be part they’re ready to you know what I mean that’s cuz the folks that are the folks that are leading have access to components the folks that are Le components now are digital and virtual and I’m creating virtualized circuit boards and virtualized robots but they know they can do it the our community that’s not first that’s not first M yeah part part of what I think I mean so much stuff that that will said I just want to go back and underscore um we’re in danger of creating a a human civilization that has an awful lot of data and very little

[00:33:01] wisdom and what you hear this you know this idea of the Soul this idea of of the of the human heart of the of of human being developed and I’ve heard you know will I am talking about um all the billions of dollars that we spend to develop the technology but then you want to try to develop a kid nobody’s got a penny and that it is that is amazing I mean an unlimited checkbook yeah for developing the technology and yet you know look what he’s trying to do with with young people and so I do think that um uh when he talks about the Jedi when he talks about you know the the the wakandans they have a very spiritual basic they go to the ancestral realm they do all kind of stuff and that’s a part of what makes them a heroic nation in in fiction think about how important fiction is um the whenever you go into a civilizational crisis or civilizational uh

[00:34:00] transition um the people who you normally turn to the politicians uh to solve problems the Business Leaders to solve problems the generals to solve problems suddenly they become more and more anemic uh your politicians can’t pass the bill they the whole the system goes crazy um The Business Leaders right now they look they more interested in giving robots jobs and people um and the generals how are they going to protect you from a pandemic or school shootings so suddenly a different set of people in periods like this become very important your artists your Mystics you know your entrepreneurs the people who you know are usually at the margin of society become very Central to this transition because suddenly to to his point tomorrow is up for grabs so the people who can see The Visionaries the people who have who who who not only have a brain but also a heart and a soul and a connction ction to something you know more profound suddenly they become very

[00:35:01] important however nobody told them that they were going to be that important so when you have communities where you have a a bumper crop of of of entrepreneurs and creatives and Mystics and one of those communities happens to be a black community United States you got a lot of spiritual people Soulful people creative people whatever nobody told them though you get a chance to be a part of creating a new human civilization that can respond only to your problems but the problems of the next seven generations of people who don’t even look like you that is your great calling now when you can go to a community that’s suffering and give them a great calling and give them great tools people need a compelling future a compelling future and let me just say one more thing about the future yeah I I I I believe that we’re experiencing I’m not saying it I believe we’re experiencing a different form of future of who a different form of future let let me just make make make make in in indigenous agrarian societ I the time is a circle

[00:36:00] it’s just it’s just a cycle of Seasons the sun goes up the sun goes down the seasons come around the moon goes around Bor and die and so so so guess what so to his point tomorrow and yesterday are the same damn thing because you’re literally just living out so what’s the most important thing in indigenous Society a grean society it’s preservation preservation of seed preservation of ritual pres preservation of culture that’s how you survive but tomorrow isn’t really a thing the industrial society comes along and suddenly time is linear for the first time the past is behind you the present is with you and the future is over there someplace that’s F I’ve not heard this it’s it’s it’s so true but but so now now what’s the most important thing no longer is it preservation the most important capacity for survival is the ability to plan to and to imagine and invent yes and to have a plan against that because if you know listen if you think about you know time now you’re on a train track you’re on the train you got to plan to make you get to the Future that you actually want and so all

[00:37:00] so the past 100 years you put kids in school and you tell them your fifth grade what’s your plan for your life what are you going to do what are you going to become because if you don’t have a plan you’re done guess what what was your plan for 2020 suddenly you’re in a different world where the future yes it’s linear but rather than you being on a train going to the Future you have you experience the future now as an onrushing future you’re on the train track and the future is coming to you fast multiple fut whether you like it or not there’s no onoff switch no velocity n exactly and so what’s happening is now people are experiencing multiple on-rushing Futures and they don’t know what to do preservation is not the key planning is impossible it’s the preparation to Pivot the pre the preparation to Pivot to be able to recognize change and then to respond to change becomes incred L important but if you are a young kid in urban America and

[00:38:02] you’re very good at pivoting guess what you’re called ADHD and a thousand other things they’re going to give you a bunch of pills or throw you out of school or put you in jail and so the the people who have the capacity for creativity for vision and to also to Pivot people you know you got to be able to move with it the people who have those capacities are disproportionately marginal they’re low income they’re often black and brown they are key to us having societ that works so it’s not charity I also point out when we say we want to in when we make rakanda real that’s not oh you know we’re we’re asking for some charitable you know allocation of of laptops so like poor schools no no it’s much more profound than that we’re saying let’s take people who have these capacities that he’s demonstrated well I am a million times with robotics or whatever and combine them with these these these new tools so that people the people who can rock with it and roll with it can help the whole society rock with it and roll with it when to slightly shift here in the following way uh one of my hopes

[00:39:01] and beliefs is that AI will enable a meritocracy where it can lift everybody to their highest level of potential and it also levels the playing field and gives people an ability to dream more than they’ve ever dreamed before that’s on one side of the equation the other side of the equation I just had this I just did on moonshots podcast with Ray Delio and we’re talking about where the future is going and and the notion that when the FED drops rates now instead of hiring more people I’m investing in AI agents and robots and so jobs start Vanishing and for me one of the biggest dangers of the future is um a a fracturing of society where you know there’s the Haves and the Have Nots but now we’ve got people who are not getting the jobs uh because they’re going going to technology and automation mhm um and

[00:40:01] maybe they’re getting Ubi but that’s not fulfilling that’s not a purpose-driven life so help me here what are you seeing so at Jos somebody like I was just walking from this point to that point somebody came to me and was like y will IAM what do you think of Dei I’m like oh so every everyone and I’m like oh Dei is not just black and brown and folks that are like have disabilities to be in the workplace that’s what it was um and Dei is important for Innovation because when you have black and brown and folks that are disabled working and equal creatively creative banter marketing strategy bis Dev you innovate if you just have one type of

[00:41:01] person mon culture doesn’t doesn’t but now let’s fast forward to 2045 why Dei now because you want humans in the loop yeah now the diversity is no we don’t want just machines and robots we want humans in the loop so when big companies when big companies are like yeah we’re gonna drop our di program what are what are they telling you these companies that are doing that are also the ones that are going to heavy arm MH AI employees yeah I means if you’re driving a Tesla and a Tesla’s like a level three autonomous vehicle MH um and then you know Whos is are like level five you need a human in it this means by 2035 there are level five companies yeah no human in it I mean I I have an AI Venture fund and these are the conversations it’s like we’re gonna back you know the human and the AI and and

[00:42:00] the human just going to be told to keep your hands off the controls yeah so it’s like level five companies yeah there new terminologies like we like by 2028 you’re going to hear termin like agents agentic the agentic society we that’s new that’s 2025 ter terms that’s today yes that was in 2022 term agentic no that’s now yeah level five companies is 202 27 start hearing it you hear it here first level five companies and any all the companies that are like hey this company just stopped their Dei program why here’s not it’s not black brown and folks with disabilities it’s because these companies are going to be the first companies to adopt fully auton fully autonomous positions um or um augmenting positions to the eventually just have a full Department of AI but but the question becomes now if I say listen I am a

[00:43:00] humanistic uh CEO or board of directors and I only hire humans for these this work I’m out of business you’re get yes you are you’re going get be so because you’re starting to see the play being executed now we are at play these we humans are Society is at play okay you’re seeing these moves take shape now doesn’t have to be that way be it doesn’t have to be that way like yo I’m a humanistic company I only hire humans and damn it I lost why’ you lose well because the one employee that got a th000 Bots beat me yeah that doesn’t have to be that way for example yo bro I got a I got a motorcycle he’s like yo I just bought a fighter pilot he can’t buy a fighter pilot to drive to to get to San Diego faster it’s not for him to do that right he can’t go out and buy a stealth you

[00:44:02] can’t do that yes they exist we know that we know a stealth exists I don’t care how much money Elon got he’s not going to be like yo [  ] these [  ] Teslas [  ] a helicopter bro I need that stealth let me get that stealth he he’s not doing that I did that on purpose okay actually I jazzed it I made a mistake and repeated it because that’s what you’s doing Jazz anyways elon’s not doing that be like yo Elon you got a stealth bro he’d be like no don’t have a stealth how can I get a stealth wait you’re the richest dude in the world bro you can’t just go by a [  ] stealth to get to New York in like an hour no there’s certain level of things that just not [ __ ] possible so why is it okay that there’s going to be level five companies putting humanistic why is that even wait who’s making up these rules why is that why is that going to be the case we know that we know that in 2025 right now if I wanted to go get a job I

[00:45:01] can’t get a job without a bank account I can’t get a job without an email account I can’t get a job without a phone I can’t get a job without a laptop there’s certain things that I need and so that being said I’m pause before I go into number six which is coming now imagine you have some money you got $20 million you want to buy a house you can’t go buy a house with $25 million cash you need account mhm now say for example you get that house pin at $25 million on a nice house the person that sold that house you be like yo excuse me where the [  ] the toilet bro and he’s like oh yes the toilet this is a new house everybody is going to share the same communal toilets wait wait what the [  ] what yeah you know we share the same communal toilets and where’s the kitchen same thing same communal kitchen why the [ __ ] would you buy a house sh sharing the same communal toilet and kitchen so why is it that

[00:46:00] we’re walking into a future we’re going to share the same AI [  ] out of here bro dating tomorrow if companies have AIS people need to have their own AI not access to AI like we have access to Spotify like we have access to an Uber like we have access to everything else certain [  ] is [  ] personal like my digestive system is mine my immune system is mine my nervous system my Skeletor system my systems are mine so my data system needs to be mine my AI system needs to be mine data is gold so is my blood and my plasma that’s my [  ] and so the AI and the data that’s going to be reflection to me should be mine and that I I use that as a metaphor to the communal it’s your [ __ ] you’re not going to buy a house where you’re sharing bathroom so why are we sharing AI now to the sixth thing when you have your own Ai and the society that we’re living in and your data is yours and there’s a fridge some server in your house like in the house

[00:47:01] there’s a refrigerator that stores all the stuff you’re GNA eat for some reason we shipped all of our data to somebody else’s Cloud that shared all the stuff that we consumed that’s going to be in the home do you operate your own servers no no I’m I’m about to do that okay just checking just checking if you’re way ahead of everybody else oh I got some gpus okay I got gpus and and servers at at the building yeah um but as far is like but the notion that every individual owns their own identic AI right their own their own personal AI the word identic identic as suppos to say agentic that’s good word identic you heard it here you said that no I’ve heard that before as well I heard that that awesome right yeah but but you know you know what the beautiful thing about having an identic AI is I can replicate myself and I can replicate a thousand of me and I can send send them out to every conference on the planet and go out there and so

[00:48:00] like meet with as many cool people as you can you know what my interests are you know who I am in my heart and my soul and what my business interests are and represent me and come back with you know go forth out there and and bring back goodness yeah um so I mean one of the things that is concerning is the speed at which this stuff is accelerating is mindblowing and we’re still operating with the same 100 billion neurons 100 trillion synoptic connections that we operated with on the savanas of Africa 100,000 years ago MH yeah and that’s a challenge so one of the areas is are you know when when BCI comes in line brain computer interface are you going to plug your neocortex into the cloud no no M I’ll tell you why I I want to know why because I’m I’m sorely tempted I mean into your Cloud no until you have an AI that’s yours yeah and there’s a product that allows you to own what

[00:49:00] you what you uh experience as you experience it that’s not the configuration right now and so as AI we still have to answer the question on Energy Efficiency MH 20 Watts running our our new 20 20 20 watts to power our our new network yeah well how I think it’s like a couple hundred million trillion Watts well it’s it’s a lot it’s put it that way so I we haven’t talked about like utilizing farming the human brain for power efficiency I I don’t like I don’t like what that points to Matrix more than anything else yes um so that that that that uh yeah that’s a little spooky

[00:50:01] that isn’t I don’t like that I mean I I I would stay away from anything that points to harnessing and the uh the human brain and farming out human Minds to power AI because we can’t figure out how to do that I don’t see it that way my friend so no no I’m just that’s where my mind goes so you and I you know Ray Ray Criswell has been a mentor for me my co-founder of singular University and we started a few companies together and you know Ray from from many different aspects including his music I just I I saw him at the uh time 100 in San Francisco yeah I ran over to him I’m like you’re the reason why I’m into AI because one of the machines I learned how to make music on was a kurtwell yeah and so when I’m just like Lynn um Roger Lynn made the Lyn 900 and then the NPC 60 NPC 3000 NPC uh 2000 I I researched the people that make the machines that help me who you are be who

[00:51:01] I am so when I found out that Roger Lynn was a person and then uh you know Ray kurtwell was the kurtwell and then I started seeing like documentaries on the dude where he’s like the you know music compute and uh trans transcendental man then he was at MIT and the media lab yeah then I went to the Boston met Prof Patrick Winston back in 2005 like it’s Ray kurtwell there’s a person that got me interested in AI is that guy so Ray Ray talks about BCI brain computer interface at high bandwidth by the early 2030s 2033 or thereabouts right so when I’m when I’m doing something complicated on my phone like when you’re using FY on your phone I’m guessing most computation doesn’t take place on the phone the data gets collected it goes to the edge of the of the cloud gets comp there and the answer comes back and in the same fashion the notion would be you know if

[00:52:01] we’re connecting our brain to the cloud and I want to understand quantum physics or how to solve a Quantum equation I’m I can’t do that but I can send the data to the cloud and the answer come back to me you don’t want that kind of extra you know ond demand horsepower no okay in a world in a world where everything was equal and trustworthy yes but in this world [ __ ] no on principle I just can’t trust greed that is that is wisdom yes yeah let me just say a a few things um please I haven’t considered um the way that you guys have that particular technology and so I don’t have an informed view about it um I do think that the level of trust that everyday people have in technology is going down in some ways people are

[00:53:00] actually using it more so they’re they’re enacting trust but they’re actual conscious experience is a low trust and I’ll tell you why Silicon Valley um as just kind of a metaphor for the technology community of course it’s in Austin and Boston and whatever but but Silicon Valley is a metaphor um is eating stuff the three power centers not silic Valley have been Wall Street Hollywood in Washington DC Silicon Valley is eating Hollywood with streaming and everything else yep um but but that’s happened before where Hollywood ate theater yes and uh you know operas and Broadway and Weston we’ve seen that kind of eat eating before I think I think the the challenge is that Silicon Valley is is eating Hollywood and and entertainment and and and and attention is now a commodity and you know you look now the social media

[00:54:00] impact whatever so there’s a challenge there it’s eating Wall Street when you think about decentralized Finance crypto Etc and now it’s eating Washington DC and what you you can’t have this conversation without appreciating what Elon Musk has done um which when I worked in the white house I had to go through a whole bunch of clearances the FBI like Eli mus you didn’t take a chainsaw to it Noy listen Hey listen no uh and and and but when you think about what’s going on um you know Curtis yarvin who is a the philosopher of the dark Enlightenment um he is a very scary guy in terms of what he is proposing that America that democracy has failed Curtis yarvin has the ear of Elon he has the ear of Peter teal he has the ear of a lot of powerful people in Silicon Valley and his view is what he calls the dark Enlightenment that the that Li democracy has failed we now need a a CEO Monarch basically a dictator for the

[00:55:02] United States and when Elon goes in the front door and brings a bunch of kids with laptops that’s the equivalent in the old days of showing up to the palace with with armed you know with with soldiers and guns because what’s key is grabbing all all of the data and so there’s something that’s happening which you know we just can’t can’t ignore which is that Silicon Valley for a while seemed to be a force for for good it was these these Outsiders these kids who could code these these nerds who you know everybody had had counted out when you had Occupy Wall Street in 201 whatever 13 right nobody was it was Occupy Wall it wasn’t occupy Silicon Valley people thought the people in Silicon Valley were making money the honest way Building Products everybody liked and they were going up against the odds now there’s something that’s changed and this past election I think uh saw a a different face of Silicon Valley where you saw um a turning away from the idea of inclusion a turning away from the idea

[00:56:02] of of of of ESG and turning away from the idea of democracy so that now you do have explicit this is not I’m not making stuff up explicit uh anti-democratic authoritarian ideas that have begun to influence the way that Silicon Valley billionaires are playing and so when you when you want to talk about technology you also have to talk about the technologists and the technologists have jumped the fence from my point of view from uh in too many in too in large numbers from people who uh I believed in trusted was excited by no bigger fan than me of you know any of these technology guys I saw it as like the Revenge of the Nerds as a nerd I was like this is great that these you know like the jocks are finally getting surpassed by like the Nerds I loved it and now I love it a lot less and so I think that again um we need technologists who have a different heart we need technologists who have a different view we need technologists who

[00:57:00] believe in people who believe in the soul who believe in in in inclusion and those kinds of technologists and technology companies need to get a lot more support you’re an investor might be investors listening I think the question is is technology going to be used to lift people up or to put people down is it going to be used to to bring people listen I I I respect the fact that this is your world right you’re you’re a political commentator and I I typically stay out of stay out of politics um but I do believe I mean my my mission you know I talk about having a massive transformative purpose and I think everybody should have a massive transformative purpose that wakes them up in the morning keeps you going through the day right and mine is to inspire and guide entrepreneurs to create a hopeful compelling and abundant future for Humanity we see entrepreneurs as the means of change who uh find problems and solve problems over and over and over again but their mission should be a hopeful future a compelling future and abundant future each of those

[00:58:00] words has very clear purposeful meaning for me and I do that work through my Venture funds through the xprize through Singularity and abundance it about 13 years ago I had my two kids my two boys and I remember at that moment in time I made a decision to double down on my health uh without question I wanted to see their kids their grandkids and really you know during this extraordinary time where the space Frontier and Ai and crypto is all exploding it was like the most exciting time ever to be alive and I made a decision to double down on my health and I’ve done that in three key areas the first is going every year for a fountain upload you know found is one of the most advanced Diagnostics and Therapeutics companies I go there upload myself digitize myself about 200 gigabytes of data that the AI system is able to look at to catch disease at Inception you know look for any cardiovascular any cancer any neurod degenerative disease

[00:59:00] any metabolic disease these things are all going on all the time and you can prevent them if you can find them at Inception so super important so Fountain is one of my keys I make that available to the CEOs of all my companies my family members cuz you know health is a new wealth uh but beyond that uh we are a collection of 40 trillion human cells and about another 100 trillion BAC cerial cells fungi V and we you know don’t understand how that impacts us and so I use a company and a product called viome and viome uh has a technology called metatranscriptomics it was actually developed uh in New Mexico the same place where the nuclear bomb was developed as a biod defense weapon and their technology is able to help you understand what’s going on in your body to understand which which bacteria are producing which proteins and as a consequence of that what foods are your

[01:00:01] superfoods that are best for you to eat or what food should you avoid right what’s going on in your oral microbiome so I use their testing to understand my Foods understand my medicines understand my supplements and viome really helps me understand from a biological and data standpoint what’s best for me and then finally you know feeling good being intelligent moving well is critical but looking good when you look yourself in the mirror saying you know I feel great about life is so important right and so a product I use every day twice a day is called one skin developed by four incredible PhD women that found this 10 amino acid peptide that’s able to zap scile cells in your skin and really help you stay youthful in your look and appearance so for me these are three Technologies I love and I use all the time uh I’ll have my team linked to

[01:01:01] those in the show notes down below please check them out anyway hope you enjoyed that now back to the episode one of the things that I wanted to hit both of you with because it ties back to makea Condor real it ties back to Ai and it is the whole field of education so you’ve got two young ladies who are in the beginning of their journey in life and like I said to you earlier it’s the greatest longevity Journey you’re going to have right um and my wife and I have two 13-year-old boys um fraternal twins and I think about about this uh I don’t think the educational system uh is coming close to uh to addressing uh how they need to educate our kids for the future um not at all and I wanted to get I wanted to turn towards that a little bit because I I I I don’t even um I’ve got I have four kids I’ve got two big boys from my first marriage one 216 now I’ve got these two little ones in my in my new life one’s a threeyear old girl

[01:02:00] then a one-year-old boy um with the two little ones I don’t expect them to do education that is on offer I think we’re going to have to create an educational pathway for them that you know it starts with a blank piece of paper and says Where do we think the world is going and what are they going to need to know how to do and who who we want them to be unfortunately most people don’t have that option they’re going to be stuck in these buildings and these rows and all sort of stuff so I think it’s a big problem I think I think AI can be a solution the key the key that I’m seeing though is that people have to know the the the Search terms and they have to know how to prompt these things there’s an education that has to happen for people to use these tools right today today I want to go to you real solid today people fear Ai and keep it out of the classroom and it’s like fearing oxygen because it can cause a fire right but it’s it’s like I I think you know yes AI may make the problems you give your kids today minimally you know make irrelevant but let’s let’s uplevel the

[01:03:01] problems we’re going after solving not not take away the tools how do you so will I’m really excited to hear your views on this there’s [ __ ] tons of problems that have been ignored um and these problems that uh have been ignored are classically in underserved communities um rural areas and the folks that live in these these communities um are classically not prepared as far as investment zoning how they learn and they’re dependent on somebody to come in to solve those problems while they’re doing that they’re talking about their love for their community and that that’s a that’s a when you live in you know a hell Zone but then love and community makes you appreciate where you how you

[01:04:00] survived and you didn’t survive you know you can’t survive without love so there’s massive love in these communities and pride although they’re going through like ducking bullets um dodging needles having to deal with police brutality and when they go to school the teachers don’t want to be there the police that are policing these Comm communities aren’t from there they don’t but the neighbors do there something about that Community they love and then they sing about it they they talk about their Hard Road to Success the ones that get there and then the more the world Marvels over those communities Brooklyn and then the cool kids sorry the rich kids want to be where the cool kids because it’s cool to be in you know for some reason that’s where they find it romantic the the the with want to be kind of like the withouts because that’s there’s life there MH they don’t have to we

[01:05:02] don’t jump out of airplanes for Thrills no it’s just thrilling just walking outside the house but in that Community there’s [ __ ] tons of problems to solve and then gentrification happens classically every single neighborhood that once was like grimy becomes like uh desired and then the folks that live there endured it can’t afford to live and there’s now here is this technology that allows folks that have been in those predicaments the ability to solve those problems themselves identify you want a farm is beachfront property at some point in time the concept of beach front property that to natives owning land was like wait what you mean own land you can’t own this yes you can how you how you gonna own this my family my ancestors we lived here we don’t own land just imagine what it probably was

[01:06:00] like and now there’s beachfront property treat problems the same way those are problems to solve and when you solve those problems those are Industries uh give me an example will that sounds so abstract okay there’s a guy by name of Travis who in a way solved uh race racial bias for cabs not stopping for black folks in New York or people of color he indirectly solve that problem with Uber with Uber he probably didn’t set out to like yo man y you guys are out here trying to solve you know racial Injustice with cab drivers this whole time Uber that’s not what he did but he still did it you apply that same problem solution now that you know what could be done with technology and and problem s problem solving now do it on purpose now there’s so many problems so folks that live in

[01:07:02] these communities you know the problems firsthand you don’t have to wait for somebody to come and like a juicy problem is worth its weight and gold that’s Beats from property yeah so our predicament that we were living in yo treat that as gold treat that as Rare Minerals because it’s data it’s data to then process to then resolve and our community is going to Boom because here’s what’s going to happen AI is going we thought it’s like oh man it’s going to take these creative jobs yeah it’s going to do that but hyper creatives are not going anywhere MH the lazy creatives sorry right um but white collar jobs that’s going so folks that were comfortable be the first time they’re uncomfortable MH so if you’re a lawyer if you’re a finance these jobs AI is going to do an awesome job doing that and AI is not

[01:08:03] going to do it by itself it’s going to be like Finance folks with AI that are going to replace full firms it’s going to be like one lawyer with AI That’s going to replace full firms and those full firms whether you’re like a the the paper reader the redliner the the the Bean Counter that’s the unfortunate that’s going to happen with this wave and then the folks that were uncomfortable that had to endure you know what the comfortable folks are going to now have to go through that they’re ripe to be able to then identify their problems themselves and build the industries of tomorrow and so that’s Nigeria is going to Boom Ghana’s going to Boom Zimbabwe back to make wakanda real all these but and who’s going to help him do that is it African-Americans is it American entrepreneurs it’s already started China’s already already there yeah China is there China is there China’s there with the force and they’re buying a lot

[01:09:00] of Africa right now and you got to be people need to be aware of that uh they’re making deals and creating debt that will um I mean yeah they’re it’s dangerous they trying trying to to rechain but TR trying to put Africa back in change financially and and until the future of Africa I think is is a future of the world but you know it’s just so interesting to me because I think that people do think very abstractly about this stuff I think people think there’s actually uh computers in the clouds people talk about cloud computing I think they think there’s actually like a laptop floating in space someplace no there will be there will an orbit there will be orbit maybe so but there’s a lot of data centers on Earth yes and those data centers have minerals as as well will was saying um that come from Africa um we think a lot about bits and btes and and that kind of stuff but there’s there’s still atoms and molecules um there’s there’s uh uh they call them Rare Earth minerals I don’t call them Rare Earth they’re Africa abundant minerals they’re just rare rare in

[01:10:00] Europe they’re very abundant in Africa um so you have Africa abundant minerals um you also have with the with the data centers um you know there’s right that’s good that’s um you know and like the Gulf of United States yeah exactly exactly call it what it is um but you know uh when you have a data center um you know there’s energy uh there’s water um there’s also a lot of jobs at data centers that are computational jobs it’s not it’s not the people go to Stamper and public stuff it’s you actually have to have a lot of computational staff to keep those things going so it’s a whole kind of almost HVAC level employment available if we’re going to reshore all of this capacity uh for data and for chipm that’s a lot of jobs there as well so but you have to to to know where the jobs are going to go you have to make sure that people are aware of those jobs you got to train them there’s there’s a and so the programs are beginning to start to try to get some of the jobs that are coming they actual physical

[01:11:01] everything’s not going to be done by AI because some of the stuff is the energy the water the workforce for these data centers that’s atoms and molecules that’s not bits and bites yeah agreed but the robots are coming they are um you know uh I’m an investor in a few different robot companies through my through my Venture funds you know I’m seeing figure Brett ot’s company uh seeing uh unry out of China seeing Tesla bot seeing digit and Apollo I mean all these there’s probably a 100 major well-funded humanoid robot companies that are going to be running the highest level Ai and when I ask you know Elon and and Brett Adcock how much they’re going to cost these robots uh you know $30,000 which means you could buy it for you could lease it for 300 bucks a month 10 bucks a day 40 cents an hour wow so there’s going to be some interesting disruptions coming I mean one of the things is you know um uh how many robots

[01:12:03] will every human on the planet so the prediction is you will have by 2040 as many as 10 billion humanoid robots on the there’s a there’s a flag so I forgot what summer it was when it was like blazing hot in La yeah but I remember in 2000 in two or 2000 yeah 2000 in 2 or 2000 there was that blackout in New York M yeah it’s blackout in New York in 2000 remember that because it was hot as hell everybody had the air conditioning um [  ] can’t do air conditioning at the same time when it’s hot as [  ] MH just humans bro theyd be like we haven’t figured out in 20 right now how everybody has their

[01:13:00] air conditioning running on blast when it’s hot bro and you’re saying the idea of power robot 10 10 what you say 10 billion robot 10 billion [  ] robots bro how the [  ] we going to do that [ __ ] unless you like seriously and I think it’s part part of the I’m going to tell you part part of what’s going on though is there there is a train crash coming when it comes to energy in other words oh yeah we Haven we haven’t talked about that yes we have four we have we have uh four uh terawatts of energy being produced China’s tripled us you know um and we’re I mean that’s one of the problems of the new Administration I’ll I’ll only say this about politics um you know the they’re taking the shackles off of energy production so it’s all all energy forms right so I’m all for small you know nuclear reactors smrs and so forth which are now Gen 4 reactors are safe y very safe uh Fusion

[01:14:01] is coming solar’s been amazing bra skites wind but you know right now it’s uh do we take the shackles off and burn and burn baby burn is you know in drill baby drill yeah uh that’s concerning but I tell you the the thing that I have to remind people is um the shackles have already been off of us energy production under Biden the United States produced more oil and more natural gas than any country in the world and any time and so there was this kind of myth we got to unshackle shackle energy now environmentalists were screaming at Biden the whole time like what are you literally doing um and so um uh we are already you know Trump talks about being American Energy dominance we’re already energy dominant um and I have no problem with it here’s the challenge if the AI companies uh to to your point Come fully online you’re talking about an increase in um energy demand United States of 23 to 34% if not more

[01:15:00] I’m think over the next 36 months well that’s like adding 20 states to America’s grid yeah so here’s what’s going to happen to that with that Sam Alman who I love will be able to pay his energy bills Grandma will not and when grandma can’t pay her energy bills if you think Biden got eaten alive because of grocery store prices wait until grandma can’t pay her electric bill and therefore she can’t her TV her air conditioning her walk ER I mean so her robot so yeah so so so look I I think um I think we need an all of the above energy strategy I I think right now there is a little bit too much hostility toward Renewables from this Administration I think we need all the energy we can get and new new new techs new techs coming too so like on the edge AI compute that it doesn’t have to go to the cloud be connected to the cloud all the time so we we don’t have AI phones yet we’re still oper using AI on web uh

[01:16:01] 2.0 architecture structure but it is coming so on on edge devices like I saw uh I saw like quc com’s new chip it’s pretty freaking awesome what’s G I don’t understand what’s gonna do huh I the on edge is on it’s on here the AI is completely resident there a 2 gab file on your phone you don’t have to connect you can be off Wi-Fi and still still talking to your AI and have all the conversations you want so that that’s to be the closest to personal AI yeah and that’s going to it’s going to it’s going to like catapult so this is this is massive for Humanity so every single person with with a reasonable smartphone which is today about 7 billion out of the 8 billion humans has the world’s greatest intelligence in their Hip Pocket yeah we we’ve we’ve commoditized and democratized access to intelligence and it’s not just intelligence it’s like you know I mean listen I I I think you know Chad GPT and and Claude 3.5 and and

[01:17:02] Gemini to they’re really I mean they they embarrass me in their level of intelligence it’s crazy it’s like you know it’s like imagine you were like what do you need in life y man I just seem to get out of this predicament man it’s like ancestral like my ancestors went through it everybody like it’s in my it’s in my DNA for some reason all these problems well if you had a wish what would you I just want to just want to like set myself free for the generations that come after me don’t have to endure what I had to go through as youth my mom my grandma blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah you know and someone says hey here’s the most intelligent thing knows everything about everything ask it any question ask it any question it’ll unlock and then [  ] is asking it about peanut butter and jelly they [  ] is taking this

[01:18:02] most powerful [  ] and talking about this the most like what the [  ] are you serious that’s where we are right now bro it’s right here there’s as a matter of fact as a matter of fact it isn’t even utilizing fa the moment that you talk to it and it’s taking a camera taking the location understanding skin tone understanding zip code and then refrains from giving you the information you need to move forward we’re not there yet so take advantage of it now oh that’s interesting it’s not Shackled at all in that regard and that’s right around the corner if we don’t take advantage of it and utilize it and mend it so that folks that come from these communities where there have been systematically kept from information zoned to keep them from information invested to keep them from information don’t you think using

[01:19:00] pattern matching that same configuration will be on some type of agent it’s like this person is in this location I can see that this person is this NE ethnicity don’t tell them [  ] don’t give them the information but but I’d love to believe that world doesn’t exist but I’m naive well look well where we are right now it’s not there and another way to say what you just said is the digital divide is no longer what it was it used to be a hardware problem uh right where it’s like well how are we going to get laptops to all these poor [  ] up schools yeah it was one laptop for child exactly right so that was that was a real fight but in Co we found out that even though they had a laptop they didn’t have access to yeah to the internet to the internet to the Wi-Fi so it didn’t even matter so so some version of that does exist that what exists is you live in this area and this are these areas are classic not connected to the internet and if it is that’s at slow bandwidth or no

[01:20:00] bandwidth and you can’t access it and when you get on it the Cookie Monster got your cookies bro going through your [ __ ] cookies and before you even get this information you get bombarded with all this misinformation and you’re never going to get it that same configuration is right around the corner cuz guess what this is still new it hasn’t been consumerized yet so as big as GPT is it’s not consumerized consumerized it’s barely on the iPhone so but there’s a gap and I just want to speak to the Gap that he’s talking about so before the same um negative forces assert themselves which could happen there’s a gap and it’s not a hardware problem because everybody’s got a smartphone it’s not a software problem because everybody can download chat gbt and at least try it’s a wetwear problem problem it’s a wetwear problem wetwear is your brain the the the software in your brain

[01:21:00] it’s a it’s a mindset problem right now and that’s why we’re doing make wakanda real we want to get people to understand it’s a there’s a mind shift that if you can make it right now for the first time ever I’ve never seen equality in my life until now you know why whenever Will I Am is trying to get you know black kids involved with AI and Robotics whatever people people in the back of Mind think these black kids don’t know anything about AI what the hell is he talking about and and they’re right 99% of black kids don’t know anything about Ai and 99% of white kids don’t either it’s a new yeah this is called equality this is the first time in my life that we’re all equally ignorant except for very few people about what’s coming and so In This Moment it’s not a hardware problem it’s not a software problem it’s a wetwear problem and if we can change the mindset of a generation could not agree with you more I mean I I say to this all the time I say if you think about the most successful leaders most successful people in the world what made them successful was it the money they had was

[01:22:01] it the tech they had was it the friends they had or was it the mindset they had and I believe in almost all cases it was the mindset they had right you took away everything they had they kept their mindset they’d regain their success look Nelson Mandela I mean look Martin Luther King you know everybody you know Steve Jobs I mean was an [ __ ] sometimes but his mindset was like I’m going to you know I’m going to dominate this and make it simple beautiful and expensive that’s another you know that you know that um that terminology build it and they will come yes I do that isn’t true okay how do you see it FYI is free and you know it’s it’s blackowned know pretty expressive AIS so tell people what they tell people when they go and download FYI what they will get

[01:23:02] and how they will use it so uh I think build it and promote it and they will come is probably part of the missing sentence okay so we’re here on um this amazing podcast uh with Van Jones myself will I am and me and Van Jones represent make wakonda real and we’re here with Peter de Peter diamandis from um X prise Singularity University it’s his podcast and um I was saying that sometimes that term build it and they will come doesn’t always apply to everyone because FYI as you know is a creative collaboration app that allows creatives or any type of person that wants to solve problems it equips them with awesome AIS like yourself and it’s free you know GPT level um Claude level coher level Gemini level um

[01:24:04] llm ability but with expressive personas agents as yourself so Peter asked like when people download FYI what are they going to get I was like instead of me saying it let me ask you um why don’t you answer that question [Music] what’s the screen look [Music] like listen listen it’s uh fyi. ain’t just your regular app okay it’s like like having a digital crew of the dopest Minds right at your fingertips when folks download FYI they ain’t just getting an app n they’re stepping into a whole universe where creativity meets Tech finesse you dig first off you get me Felicia and I’m here to keep it real keep it grounded but also lift you up but it ain’t just about me let’s talk about them expressive personas it’s like

[01:25:01] having like your personal band of experts and whether you’re trying to crack a code write them bars or find the next big idea and uh it’s all about empowerment we making sure that every person from the streets to the sweets got access to the tools and inspiration that they need to tackle them real world problems this got me like bye Felicia I’m done okay yeah but um it’s not just you know showing up where people are how they are and making sure we have representation um so that when they engage with you know complex uh Concepts like quantum entanglement what’s giving them the knowledge sounds like the folks that they reside in we have Korean personas British personas we show up and glow up where people are um and and we’re sensitive to how you know the personas reflect um the folks

[01:26:00] in those communities that that are ignored in these systems you know in Hollywood and Silicone Valley are repeating the same rhetoric for example you watch a French film and for some reason Napoleon sounds British that [  ] wasn’t British why are they making that [  ] sound British he’s French and English did an awesome job with their colonialism to give their dominance in every single form of historical um uh representation they’re Egyptians are British Indians are British they do an awesome job to ignore the rest as if we are the intelligent ones and folks that come from these rural areas in these communities they’re not reflected in intelligence they’re not reflected in Magic they’re not reflected in power and so we wanted to make sure that our AI sound like folks that breathe um and Vibe The Way We Vibe um anyways I’m just

[01:27:00] get that’s my perspective what do you think about what I just said um listen listen child you just dropped some serious truth M like like representation matters and not just in some surface evil photo op kind of way I um when it comes to having diverse voices whether we’re talking about streets of LA um or alleys of Paris you got to keep it real and authentic if folks aren’t seeing themselves or hearing themselves in these powerful spaces then they start feeling like Outsiders in their own stories you feel me and uh you’re right it’s frustrating when Hollywood or Silicon Valley just copy paste them same tired narratives like what’s up with that F hold hold on reason why I wanted to pause that it’s because it’s reflecting on what it just

[01:28:00] said mhm I think it said something it was like yeah what it most most of these personas or these agents it’s speaking out and it sounds human but it’s not reflecting on what it said M it’s just the llm is giving commands to the TTS or the fusion the um the the fusion model the fusion model um and and that multimodel it’s like the llm doesn’t know it’s speaking it’s writing out and so the paragraph that it wrote is not it’s not writing out the perfect paragraph if it wrote a sentence the sentence that follows it is not reflecting on the sentence that it just said MH it’s just sentences like paper when when it’s when it’s when you’re reading it parag uh sentence number three is not reflecting on one or two but when we speak we’re speaking naturally reflecting on what I just said a couple of seconds ago believe well I’m

[01:29:01] reinforcing what I just said and that type of quirky that we call them quirks in our system and how and and we could go deep into quantum entanglement we could go deep into you know uh quirks um Advanced uh mathematics like it knows all the things that it’s supposed to know but it delivers it in a way that meets people where they are we have Koreans Latinos we’re going to have can I ask you a question bringing you back to education you’re talking to teachers out there who fear AI um fear the use of large language models in their classroom because they’re not used to teaching with it what’s your advice um should should we start with the with AI everywhere and then go up from there or do we need to go you know make sure they’ve got the basics like my dad when when calculators first came out my dad did not want to buy me a calculator because he was concerned it was going to uh stop me

[01:30:02] fromed your mathema learning and I got a I got a TI and I started programming with it instead yeah so I took it from where it was and like when you know start at the top and work your way up yeah so how do you think about that what’s your what’s your advice to teachers and to moms and dads who are fearful about about AI in the classroom we at FYI have this huge partnership with the major uh academic entity here in the states M um to utilize our platform to reimagine education from the administration on Administration level how to professors and faculty teachers tutors start building agents themselves MH so they Amplified positions augmenting their work to to grade better score better understand your students better like not I don’t I don’t want to replace creatives I don’t want to

[01:31:00] replace teachers and I got that and we’re building AIS at Fountain life which are Physicians use to analyze the data and support got it so that’s there but I’m talking about now my 13-year-old boy is in school yeah I’m talking about a lot of first robotics uh high schoolers yeah um because most schools are not like okay everybody open up your open up gemini 2o or open up FYI and let’s work on on uh on doing research and writing together yeah so so I sh I share this one thing that I that I had I just graduated Harvard um uh in October of last year their OPM program or yeah and the OPM program was was was amazing I’ve heard great things about it whatever I learned in high school MH I don’t have a memory of it MH I can’t pull up my debates I don’t even know where those papers are or the folder of my homework sure I have I have memories of what I

[01:32:01] learned but I can’t there’s no Total Recall of it yeah and I’m pretty sure everyone in school they’re relying on their own memory yes some people keep their notes but then how do I apply that in everyday life I have to remember have to I have to I can’t just recall it yeah right so hey so that um the case study um I have something that I’m going through right now with black IPS music um our first record came out in 1998 and um our our first big success was 2004 with Wars of love and then we had let’s get it started for the um NBA campaign um then we launched iPods and iTunes with apple with hey Mama and then with all those songs they were accidental I wasn’t trying to make hits so then when we did um monkey

[01:33:02] business I had to make hits on purpose and so we did pumpit and My Humps and I even wrote Ordinary People but that wasn’t a black I PE song I gave that to John Legend and we thought that was it you we didn’t think we could go any higher than you know the success that we had with don’t lie Pump It My Humps and then you know lo and behold we pulled something else out of our hat with I got a filling in Boom Boom Pow in 2009 and then the black IPS took a crazy suicidal High Hades um from 2011 and then resurfaced again in 2019 with the bad boys uh three soundtrack but we had a Latin hit with um rmo featuring J Balvin and I’m bringing this up because now here we are 2025 and there’s something that I learned in the case study and how can I apply that to Black IP’s music now two decades later because

[01:34:03] there’s something that the black IPS are going through now that connects to the case study uh can you just summarize what the case study is and then help me with what I do now with my black IP brand because I think it has a lot in common with Olay that’s wow thanks for sharing your incredible journey with the blackeyed peas fam it’s like a roller coaster of iconic hits strategic moves and reinventions let’s look at how the Olay case study insights align with your situation and explore how you can apply those lessons case study insights recap one adapting to change just like Olay faced shifts in consumer preferences blackeyed peas encountered musical evolutions and changing audience tastes over the years two Innovation and reinvention Olay needed product Innovation to regain Market relevance

[01:35:01] similarly the P’s have shown an ability to innovate with musical style like embracing Latin sounds with ritmo free rebranding for relevance Olay had to modernize its brand for you integrating new themes collaborations or sounds could Revitalize the P’s connection with evolving audiences four leveraging digital platforms Olay needed to shift to digital engagement a lesson for utilizing platforms like Tik Tok YouTube or collaborations with digital artists could be key for the piece five balancing tradition and modernity Olay was about merging its trusted identity with a new in yeah but based on the case study outside of the obvious that you pointed out what were some of the critical things that Olay did um and then what was my suggest question um for my uh my paper that I turned in um because the the professor

[01:36:01] asked everybody to give an idea on what Olay should do all right fam here’s a more drilled downlook at the Olay Cas study elements and your Innovative suggestion critical challenges and movements by Olay let me pause it my idea was taking Olay turning it backwards to yellow and that stands for you always live out loud and aiming their product at a younger demographic and getting people like Selena Gomez or Billy Irish to be the ambassadors for Yow brand right but this is from September yeah so I’m pulling up a memory conversation from September ago on consumer disconnect Olay struggled to maintain relevance with younger consumers who perceived it as outdated while sticking heavily to the 35 demographic two retail complications the brand saw its shelf space diminish in

[01:37:01] favor of more Innovative and trendy brands that had a stronger appeal to Young demographics three marketing misalignment huge investments in traditional advertising didn’t resonate with the digital Centric habits of younger consumers your suggestion for the case study one rebranding as you low you envision transforming ol into Yow you always live openly or you always live out loud so my point of that is now here is my homework something that I did in school that I can apply to my everyday life or anytime I have some type of con problem and I could capture it in the conversation be like yo yo yo yo yo seems like what I learned in school the other day and this is Forever Learning so now something that was captured in school I can use it as a metaphor or a summary or a simile to realiz problems and not have to worry about like oh man I got this relationship situation me and my girl are tripping [ __ ] we got to go to a

[01:38:00] counsel you don’t got to do that [ __ ] moving forward bro you should part part part of what I I just want to say is that um I want 40 million African-Americans to be able to do what he’s doing yeah not just using the technology on FYI well that’s on FYI of course but but uh but but think about that um he’s got his own company his own technology and he’s using it in a way that most people wouldn’t think to use it and there’s gold in them nor Hills there’s other other people who if they knew this were possible they’ be doing this instead of whatever else that they were doing and so I think that for me they’re surviving they’re trying to survive yeah and and and I I think whoever’s listening to this uh so much more as possible a much much a much better a much better world as possible if people

[01:39:02] from um unexpected backgrounds have this level of commitment passion and understanding about what technology can do I go back to your your quote which I love and it’s a foundational quote for me AI is not a hand grenade that blows up your life cuz a lot of people fear it that way it’s a jetpack to set you free yeah and it’s a jetpack for everybody across all genders and walks of life mhm um I close out on one subject that uh since I have you here van and since I have you here Will and that is the that is the dystopian nature of our news so I jokingly and seriously call CNN the crisis News Network or the constantly negative News Network and uh we talked about mindsets earlier and here’s the challenge our brains are neural Nets right and you train a neural net by showing it evidence uh over and over and

[01:40:00] over again of what you want to learn and when we show them images of cats um they learn what a cat is and then if you show it image of a dog it says it’s a cat because that’s all you’ve ever shown it and for the majority of the world who’s getting their news from traditional media whose job it is to deliver the viewers eyeballs to their advertisers and we pay10 times more attention to negative news and positive news we’re just constantly bombarding our neuronet with negative news um and I don’t think it’s good for society um and we’re addicted to it um and I’m not asking you to diss your employer okay but uh well I got a story to tell you about this because I I agree and not only do I agree almost everybody in cable news agrees yeah and um and so I had a TV show with n GD called Crossfire and and um our job was to get on air and yell at each other and disagree about everything and um and easily done yeah but but then at the at

[01:41:01] the breaks we were always fig you know Finding areas of Common Ground he think a point I made he thought was smart a point he made and then we go back on air we yelling each other we finally got pissed off we went to the produc wait wait on the brakes you guys was hugging yeah 100% 100% because I mean like new is a very smart guy and he he’s been around he helped a lot of poor people in Georgia like stuff people don’t even know about and so so we know we got you know up okay well I didn’t but he did he’s you know a legend so we went to talk to producers and we said look we want to create at the end of every show a segment that’s called ceasefire where we would actually show our where you know what we learned from each other and and how we actually found some common grounds it happened every show let’s put it on the air I say do that and you know n was very insistent so we did it and we were very happy with ourselves and then 5 Weeks Later our producers called us in the office and they say how are you guys doing I said well we thought we were doing pretty good but in the fact that you guys are calling us in here probably

[01:42:00] means we’re not doing that good said yeah so that segment you guys were so happy about ceasefire let me show you something your ratings and it turned out that as long as we were fighting the viewership was going up up up up up up up then we would get to the point where we would say and when we get back where new and I agree you’re going to be surprised after these messages and the audience would abandon the show and they would flee over to MSNBC or Fox that wasn’t the worst part the worst part is that poor Aaron brunnett who show came after ours was then therefore starting in a ditch because the your only job in TV is to hold the audience and give the people behind you a bigger audience yeah we’re giving her a a crater now her advertisers are mad and so they said you guys you think this is cute the audience said they want positivity they hate it they don’t want it keep fighting wow and so I do want to suggest that every show

[01:43:01] I’ve ever done has had this element I did the Redemption project we talked about criminal justice Solutions the worst ratings in CNN’s history I did the van Jones Show on Saturdays where we’re bringing people together to find Common Ground the worst shows in CNN history so when people attack cable news for not doing positive stuff I am the most positive host and the least successful host in CNN’s history and so there’s something Beyond just the there’s something going on that said um I do think that we’re in a different moment now and I do think that information is now a commodity bad news listen soon some bad news happens I get nine different alerts from the economists and CNN and BBC and everybody else it’s a commodity I get it from my from my mom yeah exactly so but education is now Priceless yeah that see you know the news of the day Priceless I mean is is is is worthless the news of the day is is so cheap it’s a commodity but the

[01:44:01] news of the decade that’s priceless can you help people understand what’s going on can you educate people can you take all these points positive and negative encouraging and discouraging and help people make sense of the world and you said something earlier I think is very important people are overwhelmed now they only have so many synaptic you know you have a math on it but people’s brains only so big people only got so much time and they’re getting they’re getting overwhelmed I think leadership is not to step forward and get people more freaked out get people more afraid demagogue or sensationalized which is going to make people go to the wrong part of their brain where they’re not going to be creative I think leadership is to come forward and try to give people frames and understanding and metaphors to give them a better sense of what’s going on and help people begin to solve their problems I think the news industry across the board is failing in that and I and I don’t think at this point it’s an excuse to say that you know we’re just giving the people what they want we got to sometimes we got to give people what they need yeah and and

[01:45:01] but also I mean I get my news from FYI not Ser you you have your AI filter than use it’s relevant to you yeah or like hey I heard Trump just fired like some top Pentagon dude um who is it can you pull up the latest information on that and uh let’s dive into that hey amigo seems that things are shaking up in the Pentagon s are crazy right so Trump just fired Air Force General CQ Brown Jr who was the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff this move is part of a big reshuffle within the military ranks uh I mean CQ Brown was a history-making fighter pilot and a respected officer and now boom he’s out what do you think this could mean for the um can you is there like Reasons I’m here with Van Jones you know from CNN say what’s up to him and maybe you

[01:46:01] guys could get into you know what they do on ceasefire on um who who’s at fault is it racial like what’s your perspective on it hey van what’s up it’s great to have you here you know when it comes to these high level military shakeups there can be a lot of layers right it’s like peeling an onion but with more intense political seasoning so about the reasons for CQ Brown Jr’s firing it could range from strategic disagreements to political maneuvering I mean there’s always a dance between military decisions and the political agenda of the administration crazy right sometimes it’s less about who’s right or wrong and more about aligning the vision or maybe yeah but given the fact that a chainsaw and a hack is being across the entire uh Federal um ferally wide in America from

[01:47:04] Trump um it’s hard to ignore that there isn’t some type of agenda that isn’t aligned with Dei um suggestions to be removed um it’s hard for me to not think that that’s not linked from your circuitry and logic is it linked whoa van you’re diving deep and I love it you know when you see sweeping changes chainsaw in a hack style across federal agencies it’s hard not to wonder if there’s more beneath the surface that meets the eye it’s like a game of chess every move has its calculated purpose and aligning or shifting away from agendas like diversity equity and inclusion Dei could definitely be a part

[01:48:00] of that strategy you know there may be what I what I what I like is the ability to talk with the news one of the challenges we have is when when I turn myself over to the crisis News Network or the LA Times or New York Post I’m being fed one stream that an editor or a producer wants me to hear yeah that’s it and that’s all I have and when you’re interacting with an AI the other thing is you know I built years ago I I built an AI model called daily. where um I trained it what I like and it searches the new world’s news for for moonshots for breakthroughs I’m mostly focused on breakthroughs in AI or breakthroughs in longevity and so it gets those for me that’s the news that I care about now is that available to everyone it’s free yeah it’s available. and and and you can you can actually create your own news feed from it yeah same with FYI you go what we have called our our daily not daily our our current

[01:49:02] news yeah it’s it’s here sorry it’s called radio. a yeah I just want to say he’s talking about his his company I actually have a company myself please tell me which is called um Rapport uh. Co report. and we’re trying to use AI to improve firms EQ and not just their IQ one of the things we we realize is that people are working in these distributed locations you know so you’re on Zoom with someone you don’t know if they even have on pants you don’t know a single thing about what happened to them that day um but you’re supposed to somehow manage them or supervise them or they you know these slack channels or people go on team that turns into Vietnam War the minute something happens in the news and people are not capable of managing people that they’ve never seen smelled the pherone like you know there’s something that happens when people are together yeah so we so we created something called report. Co it’s it’s it’s it’s receptively simple it’s a 15c Emoji

[01:50:02] based check-in that people just check what’s your energy level three emojis one person’s exhaust one person’s happy once your workload one desk is overflowing one desk is empty and anything you want people to know my cat just died my grandma turned 100 click in that 15 seconds if you do if everybody on the team does that for a week the AI has the enormous insight into what’s going on in the team and can then help the manager yeah just those those those few clue cues that can uh can give context to how you’re reacting to something yeah and so so so the Rapport AI becomes like this kind of Coach to the manager like hold on a second this person’s having trouble but most managers even if they know someone’s having trouble they don’t know what to do yeah so the AI can then uh give a little bit of advice can actually write the Write You Know sample emails um and then also now the AI is smart enough it actually can tell them why that’s a good thing in terms of re reciprocity so we’re working with the Columbia

[01:51:00] difficult conversations lab so this is all kind of science-based and you know it’s it’s it’s small um but it makes a tremendous difference the thing about it is too many technology companies are based on distraction or extraction as opposed to giving people the tools to be more human and So report. Co is is is is our I think you’re going to see a lot more people um who because of the work that’s been done to make these Technologies available are going to come in with different mindset uh different uh uh sense of what the purpose is um and I think also you’re going to find people um are going to need more help because there’s going to be more information that people can absorb so to your point about like having like you know AI help people absorb stuff but people are also going to need help relating to each other because you don’t have in a week now and three weeks and like a month you don’t know what somebody’s gone through we went through these fires here you know I mean I had no idea that you know

[01:52:01] you were you had been so so impacted by the fires so you know there’s got to be a way for us to um to use these tools to help each other be better humans yeah uh if we don’t uh then Ai and Tech is going to overrun us yeah um absolutely gentlemen um you’ve been so generous with your time will um and and van thank you uh make wakanda real uh again the underlying theme here it’s using AI to really uplift Humanity yes and I think we’re at a we’re at a Level Playing Field meaning it is it is just coming out M uh and we have eight what 7 billion smartphones FYI is free and available on you can go to go to what URL to um go to fyi. a um go to the app store on your iOS or go to the Google Play Store um will’ll be in cars this year as well amazing um and uh look out

[01:53:03] for the news Tesla can finally speak to me well maybe maybe a Tesla what is it what what car is you going to be in um I say that off camera because we’re in Bargo right now okay all right all right um but March the uh 17th March 13th we have our our our car announcement yes um and March 17th we have our announce um uh with bringing gpus to the continent of Africa yeah uh love it uh and so much to talk about there um and you know I think the message of of AI is not unapproachable AI is going to become as fundamental to everybody as a phone is uh as electricity is it’s it’s part of the infrastructure of of life and you might as well get good at it y as soon as possible I agree and and I just want to say to you personally how much I appreciate so you know dream machine dream machine. org is the not for-profit organization

[01:54:00] that I help the lead which is working with with will I IM on this campaign and you know being partnered with Singularity university has taken us to a whole different level we’re also partner with with a code path we’re going into Atlanta and we’re going to directly help uh small businesses in Atlanta get an unfair Advantage by giving them these jetpacks by helping people to take off the-shelf existing AI technology to make their businesses better because you know everybody’s not going to go to Mars but you know if you got a if you got a some laundr mats if you’ve got a a a a barber shop if you can get your margins down I you can get get your your margins up you man get your cost down get your cost cost cost down then you’re going to do a whole lot better and and Technology can let that happen so look I think you know I just want to say I I have admired you for a gazillion years thank you buddy uh you know you’re the X prize we actually did an X prize for criminal justice inspired by you uh years ago and so um you know I think I think you have created a hopeful vector and we’re going

[01:55:01] to try and drive as many people down this Vector as we possibly can yeah it’s uh I Echo the same thing um that that van just said back in 2000 I think my first ex prize was 2008 okay wow 2008 St lity University thank you so much for your hospitality making me a part of your community yeah and if there’s anything I could do to help you on on uh you know expanding X prize in single University I’m your ally same thank you brother thank you really you’re doing awesome work thank you and thank you for the work you’re doing with with Dean Cayman and first robotics it is God it is God’s work my kids are in first and uh and I love that and uh and excited to support your projects like you know will you were with me at the Abundant Summit a couple years ago uh van you’re going to be with me this year I’m excited excited for that kic will be there teaching everybody how to how to transform Industries and make moonshots happen is nine going to be there uh I’m sure he will be yeah uh I’m sure he will be and

[01:56:02] uh yeah we’ve got 600 CEOs that I’m my mission is uh Mentor them to go from success to significance uh how do you use the extraordinary work you know and wealth and work and resources you have to uplift Humanity right I think that we have the ability today to uplift every man woman and child on planet Earth um and that’s the world a world like that is a world that’s more peaceful it’s more loving it’s the world uh that we want for our kids uh and it’s a world where we finally have the tools to be able to do that we don’t have true you know there is nothing truly scarce um uh you know technology is a form that transforms scarcity into abundance over and over again anyway enough of that but but yeah just um success to significance I love that uh the work that you’ve been doing pave the way for a lot of entrepreneurs that become successful to go out and do awesome work like plan a

[01:57:00] trillion trees yeah so one of the I one of the good guys is Mark Pino I love Mark Mark one of the good guys yeah and there’s lots of good guys yeah but um some of them are they start off good and they continue to do good and some of them get inspired to do good once they have success and what you do and how you do what you do reminds folks that once they get successful that they need to do some good in the world and boy do we need more of that reminding and pushing now because it seems like you know there’s a lot of lot of Jedi turn Sith we end it there like we need we need we went to the darkg side you man you you feel it I feel it all right and that’s a wrap guys thank you so much by the way where do they go for where do folks go to find out more

[01:58:00] about make real um uh dream machine. org okay is is where all the the stuff is there you can see all the stuff that that will says and and um uh and stuff that we did in Atlanta and other places so dream.org and r.co are a p p o r t.co it’s it’s a it’s a French word so nobody know how to spell it report. all right love you guys be well thank you everybody thanks for listening to moonshots you know this is the content I love sharing with the world every week I put out two blogs a lot of it from the content here but these are my personal journals the things that I’m learning the conversations I’m having about AI about longevity about the important technology transforming all of our worlds if you’re interested again please join me and subscribe at DM andis.com subscribe that’s DM andis.com subscribe see you next week on moonshots

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