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moonshots ep139 bitcoin vs stocks ama salim ismail transcript

Wed Dec 11 2024 19:00:00 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time) ·transcript ·source: Moonshots Podcast

the numbers are insane Bitcoin compared to everything else over the last you know number of years outperformance is off the charts I think that’s probably going to be the safest bet going forward and I would much rather put my money into Bitcoin and then an agregate fund today is it still safe to own the broad stock market through an index fund over the next 20 years considering all the disruption that’s going to occur the Biotech Industry was decimated over the last 4 years years I think a lot of that’s going to come back so index funds around small biotechs think will do well make your organization as adaptable as possible and that will give you um uh future proofing and stain power that was what was going to drive the future in a huge way how high will Bitcoin go in 2025 what are your predictions my guess is 300K by the end of the year everybody Welcome to moonshots our special end of year episode in which I’m going to be answering your questions

[00:01:00] we’re doing an AMA myself and Saleem Ismael in this special WTF just happened in Tech uh this segment is sponsored by three companies I use daily Fountain viome and oneskin uh Fountain is my company that helps me avoid disease and helps me understand what’s happening to me I go for an annual upload every year to answer two questions anything going on inside my body I need to know about and what’s happening to me in the future that I can optimize myself viome is built custom supplementations for a surprisingly affordable price they measure my gut microbiome and deliver supplements uh that are custom made for my body my gut my oral microbiome and one skin is how I keep my skin looking young I get a lot of compliments on my skin which constantly surprise me and I tell people it’s from my one skin product an incredible technology for finding scile cells on my skin zapping them and keeping me you know looking good at least to my myself in the mirror

[00:02:01] everything is linked below enjoy this episode your questions answered by selem and myself all right s we have a lot of really incredible questions some of these are made me think and I’m excited about your thoughts uh the first one is from zarian it says if bmis grant us unprecedented access to the human mind how will this redefine our concept of privacy agency even what it means to be human uh and when he says bmis doesn’t mean you know body mass index it’s uh brain computer interface or brain machine interface so what happens there what do you think you know it’s like I said in the last episode right I think we’re going to take increasingly more functions of the brain that’re we have dedicated neurons towards like our memory neurons are now outsourced to the smartphone it’s just going to free us a up a lot more for the creative aspects of being more human uh for the last couple of hundred years in work you’ve got measured by how robotic you were how many widget a thing you could do and now

[00:03:01] the most valuable employees and colleagues you have are the ones that can are the most human they can learn them fastest I I think we’re going to this is going to if you allow it if you turn on intimacy mode where someone else can know your all of your thoughts uh there’s a level of intimacy that occurs that is very rare today I think you’re going to give uh AI access to everything because it’ll make your life automagical all right so at bz asks uh thoughts on Sailor and micro strategies Bitcoin Playbook uh so at BS uh uh as I mentioned in the previous podcast I just had dinner with Michael and uh his Playbook is amazing we’re going to do a podcast actually on how to implement his Playbook uh how to turn other companies on the Bitcoin standard the performance micro strategies is off the charts uh and and Michael is one of the most brilliant people

[00:04:00] that I know and he has gone he’s div he’s Doven deep um all right let me ask this one of you my friend are you concerned that quantum computers breaking encryption and hacking crypto wallets what do you think about that uh I’m not because as we uh get to Quantum encryption break or Quantum breaking encryption we also have Quantum encryption standards that are emerging and we’ll just move to the standard it’s an arms race uh what what is under threat is all the Decades of past stuff that’s encrypted that will be at more risk but the time value of that is much lower you know I’ve heard people say we’ve got about three years to start getting switching over maybe you know and five years we need to be there but just to remind folks uh I’m not concerned about it breaking encryption on my Bitcoin wallets I’m concerned about breaking encryption on nuclear codes or on the entire banking industry much bigger concern you know your Bitcoin wallets may they grow

[00:05:01] exponentially or not peacefully and peacefully not the major problem all right at Mouse boy science says will you in any way contribute to the Mars Colonial missions starting in six years what would you uh would you go yourself or provide resources for those uh who go on your behalf uh when will we see humans on Mars so great question um when I was interviewing Elon last in October I asked him I said Elon when is Starship going to Mars and his answer was uh aggressively the next couple years um so I think we’re going to see as soon as Starship is operating it’s going to be uh going to orbit around the Earth we’ll see it landing on the moon with its Landing legs and then we’ll see it going to Mars I mentioned in a previous episode my predictions for 2025 that I think we’re going to get a Clarion call from the Trump White House saying boots on Mars by 2030 uh reminiscent of JFK but those boots are going to be an Optimus robot when would I go uh I’d

[00:06:02] like to go to the Moon actually that’s my my first priority Mars sure uh after there’s a nice Chalet and jacuzzi waiting for me there I don’t want to rough it I’ll rough it on the moon because it’s close by but on Mars if I’m going to go for two or three years I want I be able to enjoy myself so some robots digging Martian uh soil and building first how about you do you want to go to Mars um I I really don’t it doesn’t look so great over there um I I totally agree with you on the moon I would go there in a second I think Mars is for the next hundred years or so definitely a one-way ticket and I’d like to retain I don’t agree with that I think it’s when we take your meaning you can get there it’s going to be very hard to get back well the whole idea of Starship is that it’s being fueled with methane and from a physics perspective it’s the human it’s the time lag it’s the it’s all of the the human aspects of all of that I think we’re I think we’ll send humanoid Rob us for a while and

[00:07:00] that’ll be great I think it’ll be a while before we s the first human beings and then it’ll even longer before they come back you know what’s interesting is uh Bezos and I I’ve known Jeff since College uh when I saw him back after Amazon was start I said Jeff what are you doing with this Amazon thing I thought you wanted to go to space he goes I make my money in Amazon and I’ll spend it in space and he’s doing that now uh we’re going to see uh uh new Glenn their first orbital Mission effort very short good luck Jeff uh but his vision is rather than going to Mars let’s build O’Neal colony’s large colonies that hold a million people build out of asteroidal materials that are rotating to give you 1G and are in orbit around the sun maybe co-orbiting with the Earth and I would love to go and Pioneer one of those bring all my friends along and uh and build one all right next question is at felso uh how long until we can experience something like Oasis Ready

[00:08:01] Player one I imagine AI has to come first for something like that to be possible what do you think I think we’re almost there now I mean you take some of the virtual reality and augmented reality apps it’s kind of incredible if you if you look at the latest Grand Theft Auto it’s almost indistinguishable from real life and there’s this point in time where um resolution on a screen exceeds that of the human eye and we’re just about there now and that changes the completely um what’s interesting about all of this is that virtual reality is much more disruptive than real reality right and therefore you’ll see some really fascinating things happen so gamifying it and going to a Ready Player One scenario I completely see that happening in the in the near short to medium-term future I just uh finished some time with Alvin grillin who is one of the real Visionaries he wrote a book called our new reality and talking about this and it’s really AI like the question said is fundamental uh

[00:09:00] to have this happen uh and we’re seeing you know Sora and uh new stability Ai and a number of these being able to generate in real time scenes to create whatever whatever you want and so I think I think we’re there within two years the the hardware on your head has to catch up uh do you own a uh a Vision Pro I don’t I’ve tried it but I don’t own one yet I think for a while that’s going to be used in very spefic specific applications like surger surgery and fixing sensitive aircraft parts and things like that I think we’re ways away from the from the profile of that the metag glasses are really an amazing Leap Forward at a couple of levels and I think that’s where we’ll see things happen first but I think we’re a year or two away from the hardware being anywhere near workable to the way we want it to a agreed you know it’s interesting because I own a vision and it’s been sitting under my desk I’ve

[00:10:01] used it twice um which tells you something right the software isn’t there yet and the hardware is uh difficult to get on and off it should be something you put on and it’s instantly you’re there and Away needs to weigh under 50 grams which you know a pair of of glasses next question who else besides Elon is working on brain computer interface and do you think anyone is going to enable Ray Kell’s predictions to come true so raise predictions uh 2033 mid 2030s high bandwidth BCI so you’re able to basically communicate directly with the brain uh think in Google you know bypass the peripheral nervous system uh you know I’ve got one answer to that I mean there are a number of incredible BCI companies uh one of them in particular is going to be on stage at the abundance Summit this year it’s science Max hodak I mentioned him in our last podcast

[00:11:00] uh is the CEO of that and they have a brand new technology uh that rather than like a thousand little microfibers which neuralink puts into the neocortex of the brain we’re talking about tens of millions the way they do it I’m not going to disclose how it you’ll learn about it it blew my mind when I saw this uh and I I think we’re going to be seeing a lot of companies coming into the BCI space um so here’s the question would you get one oh 100% um yeah I think you know I I think the the whole brain modeling thing is incredibly hard to do but interfacing with the brain is a much easier thing to do and it’s important to note that we’ve got a long spectrum of interfacing with the brain yoga martial arts prayer meditation then neurolinguistic um capabilities and neural linguistic programming etc etc all the way to psychedelics but once you have technological interfaces those accelerated Moors law and now we can

[00:12:02] it’s like the the comment about sleep we still have no idea why we sleep but the more we can help it along it’s better and therefore we have lots of technologies that can help it we don’t need to know exactly how it works and so the brain the brain will operate in the same way I think we’ll interface it with in really powerful ways we sleep per chance to dream all right uh at imagine action 38 says is it still safe to own the broad stock market through an index fund over the next 20 years considering all the disruption that’s going to occur great question how do you think about it I think it’s very simple that what’s going to happen it and this is a plug for EXO where we’ve done an analysis that showed that the more flexible and adaptable an organization is this is a study we did on the Fortune 100 uh delivers 40 times the shareholder returns over a seven-year period than those that were least flexible and least uh agile so therefore the name of the game in a volatile future is making your organization as adaptable as possible

[00:13:02] and that will give you um uh future proofing and stain power that was what was going to drive the future in a huge R I’ll give two data points of a friend of mine who is a billionaire in Silicon Valley uh and he when Trump took the white house uh he basically took a bunch of money and dropped it into index funds uh and basically said we’re going to have a roaring 20s and uh I’m getting invested in QQQ and a few others I mean the Biotech Industry was decimated over the last four years and I think I think a lot of that’s going to come back so index funds around small biotechs I think will do well but one of the questions is do you put it all into Bitcoin um I mean if you look I mean the numbers are insane if you look at if you if you compare Bitcoin compared to everything else over the last you know number of years outperformance is off the charts

[00:14:00] I think that’s probably going to be the safest bet going forward and I would much rather put my money into Bitcoin and then an aggregate fund today yeah I don’t know where let’s see where Bitcoin is at this very moment 10 as we’re speaking here Bitcoin is at 106 yeah so I mean listen it’s going to be up and down up and down but your prediction for 2025 was Bitcoin at 300 I think that is very possible and and it’s due to a lot of factors including everybody beginning to start to think about do we replicate what Michael’s done Michael sailor um and I think a lot of people are going to follow his his lead by far you’ll get multiple entries in that therefore that it’ll just expand the scope of that whole domain of using the bond market to augment Etc so I think there’s a huge future in this here is a a great question from uh niy ashri g Who Says imagine that you’re 23 right now I

[00:15:01] actually I think I’m 23 right now actually in my mind I’m 28 right now uh what would you do would you build planetary resources would you you know what would you read and learn uh where would you put your time and money uh where would you travel what tech will you absolutely Master what will you you know what will you question about so a lot of great questions um you could take an entire episode to discuss just that but you’re 23 right now selem what would you be doing if I was myself telling my 23-year-old and me what to do un intended um I would say go study philosophy a lot more and go learn the liberal arts a lot more because it gives you different frames for thinking about the world which I think are very powerful a little secret about solaron Valley is more than half the CEOs or liberal arts background which is kind of an amazing thing to comment on huh so if I were 23 right now I would be diving deep into AI or biotech I think these

[00:16:02] are the two industries that are defining the next decade they’re both massive trillion dollar opportunities uh so I would get absolutely clear about my purpose in life my my purpose and passion MTP yeah and by the way if you don’t know what your massive transformative purpose is I’ve uh my team and I have built a uh a platform called mypurpose and it will walk you through a process um it’s really really easy uh and walk you through the process of defining your massive transformative purpose so uh find out your MTP um and if it’s related to AI or health or longevity those are two incredible uh exponential growth curves ahead of us uh would I go and do planetary resources again yeah I still want to go do it I still want to but I need to go and do it when I’ve got a few hundred million of cash in my pocket so I’m not going to

[00:17:02] raise the money from anybody else cuz just it’s just too painful to build these companies that are they are so cash dependent okay next question comes from uh at Alex uh lubarski if you could design a system of Health Care in the US focused on youthful longevity what would be the most important aspect um Alexi um I think the most important aspect right now is Reinventing the food system I think uh you know I’m all a th% on board with uh rfks make America healthy again uh it’s we’re killing ourselves by virtue of the stuff we’re ingesting uh so you know first Do no harm so it’s let’s get our health system in order uh the second thing I would be doing is actually creating a set of sensors and AI models that are monitoring US 24

[00:18:00] hours a day 7 days a week right so I’ve got my uh on my arm I’ve got my continuous glucose monitor got my aura ring my Apple watch just the beginning there will be a suite of sensors that you wear on your body in your body in your car in your bed that’s dribbling data to your AI and able to find and accurately predict what’s going to happen to you and just doing that um and then it’s about getting people to realize the power they have on sleep and exercise and mindset do you want anything to that s yeah I think two things one is um there’s a massive amount of regulatory capture in the healthcare industry and you want to break through that and I think that’s the most promising aspect of the incoming Administration is the opportunity and frankly the obligation to do that because that’s H holding back the health of Americans uh in a huge way I think that’s one and the second thing is a faster path to market for breakthrough new therapies and

[00:19:00] Diagnostics yeah for sure right now it takes seven years to get through the FDA and by the time your drug is approved it’s out of date um and so there’s so much more and by the way just to plug here Peter for those who have not watched your interview with Jack hitory absolutely drop everything and go watch that interview with that Peter did with Jack a couple of weeks ago it’s unbelievable to see what’s happening and what’s possible now with Quantum sensors and Quantum Computing coming in line there the opportunity for transform Healthcare is absolutely there and we need to take full advantage of it well it’s what you teach inside of open EXO I mean there’s so much disruption that is there especially in a highly regulated and I think uh I think you you nailed the head nailed the whatever the nail head yeah something like that uh on the regulatory reform that’s required it’s just and people are you know the wealthiest people I know are leaving the country to get Advanced Healthcare elsewhere makes no sense yeah crazy all right next

[00:20:02] question uh did you see the recent study done on the ability of AI to diagnose better than humans or better than humans plus AI what are your thoughts did you see that one well this has been in different domains has been around for a while now right but let me let me give you the numbers so a a it’s approximate numbers but like a physician by themselves with a set of data can diagnose like 70% accuracy a pH a physician with a chatbot by their side can get it up to 75% but an AI on its own is like at 90% like why well you know the physician is biased you’re injecting all the wrong information and it’s like insane you know how anyway I’m going to stop my rant there yeah so um just like human beings should not be driving cars because we’re terrible control systems for two ton cars going high speeded doctors human being should not be do um the Legacy seven years tell my don’t

[00:21:02] tell my nieces that I know but look you you spend seven years earli in your career becoming a doctor and then you never refresh right and that’s just absurd given the amount of they do have continuing medical education CME credits and so forth but it the field so today today’s a special day my sister Marcel just just uh passed her functional medicine exam and so functional medicine is a a branch of of medicine which is root cause looking at on a cellular level what’s going on and it’s so much more advanced than what you’re learning in medical school so she went back and spent a year basically retraining in this but even then you’re right you know in AI in functional medicine is going to just be that much better I remember Daniel craft making this comment that until very recently in seven years of medical training you only got one hour of a genomics that’s just ridiculous and why because you can update the the education

[00:22:01] system right in an easy way that you talk about immune systems education and Healthcare the worst that are out there yeah it’s it’s insane all right uh at math goov says how do we overcome exponential Tech being used to wage future Wars interesting uh you first buddy well the good news is this is an arms race that we’ve seen before where bad people will use AI unfiltered unregular restricted with regulatory ethical in concerns it makes it actually easier to spot and then you can police the big ones quick anecdote here please Mark Goodman who wrote future crimes 2015 Amazon Business book of the Year tells this great story there was a bank robbery in like somewhere in the Midwest and the bank manager calls the police and says they were all dressed as construction workers and they rob the bank police are like oh they should be pretty easy to swat spot except what the bank robbers had done and had put an ad on Craigslist saying anybody wants a paint construction job show up with all

[00:23:00] your gear at 9:00 at this location and so there were 800 construction workers in the square and so they essentially crowdsourced their escape and melted into the crowd and I just the creativity that comes from that element is so amazing that you don’t want to lose that but can you guide it in more constructive ways so I think what happens is as we figure out the techniques used by the bad guys we fix it years ago we were totally thought that spam would take out all email or that the uh fishing would make the internet ungovernable and we’ managed to solve those pretty quickly so I think the same thing will happen as we have Bad actors in their latest Technologies so so the question really is exponential Tech like drones and humanoid robots and humanoid robots with guns or AI powered tanks uh waging future Wars you know my bigger concern would be biotech because somebody will design a virus that could the cons say of that virus go find all

[00:24:00] middle-aged brown guys with a Norwegian sweater and attack and that would be a bad outcome right and so how do you deal with that is not a non-trivial thing to well you’ve got your attack dog in the background there where defend do the dog is try to protect me from the back yeah not that that dog could do anything to protect anybody but still it’s a yapper um so there was you know Star Trek was such an incredible TV show that explored so much and one of the things that you know has the potential for exponential Tech is to take humans out of the loop so it’s like robots fighting robots or drones fighting drones and there was an episode of Star Trek I don’t know if you remember it it was like it was called like the Forever War or something like that where Kirk and Spock beam into the planet and they find a society there where there are two societies that have been basically at War for like thousands of years um because they did it in an AI

[00:25:01] simulation where they like like in the simulation and they they would say okay in the city Precinct uh 100 people died here so go in you 100 people have to go into this booth where you’ll get vaporized and so they had a war going on that didn’t destroy the environment uh didn’t destroy buildings and it just very neatly uh executed people and then Kirk gets there and goes listen if your War isn’t Bloody you’re never going to end it right so so then he he destroys that system and says if you want to have a war like have a real War I love Star Trek for having explored all these areas so that’s a question shout out to the underlying framing of Star Trek which was idic infinite diversity and infinite creativity right um I think you know we are seeing that already let’s note that the Russia Ukraine uh is being prosecuted by something like half a

[00:26:00] million drones more than people um uh and the number of people killed by war is that it’s an all-time high an alltime low yeah in human history right so that’s already happening and trending we don’t notice it because we only see the current Wars and the current conflicts we see it Amplified in the news but things are getting much better on that front and and should get much better exponentially as we take out the need for work my favorite example to give people a Counterpoint is once you have abundant energy which is coming shortly then what are you fighting over because oil was the thing we’ve been fighting over for the last 100 years and so there’s all of that to think about as we change the underlying dynamics that will have some impact on conflicts well let’s go let’s go there on energy because I think it’s very important we didn’t talk about predictions for energy for 2025 in our last episode but I do think we’re going to start to see um a real refocusing on resources and energy in particular United States and I think I think we’re going to start to see uh fourth generation nuclear power plants

[00:27:02] becoming the thing that’s going to power our hyperscalers uh absolutely and and small nuclear and fourth generation are going to change the game and if we don’t do it the everybody else will and so it it becomes incumbent that it has to be done it’ll get done everywhere it’s just the time lag until those things come online that we have to worry about and hopefully we can get through that without too much difficulty do you think Fus when do you predict Fusion is going to come on I’m hearing a lot conversation on helon being actually delivering commercial grade by before 29 yeah I think solar and storage Trump Fusion because if you have a solar at very very low cost and and storage at near low cost at almost zero cost and it’s very uh it becomes very distributed and decentralized that trumps Fusion yeah and so I think that’ll take place before the need for Fusion but Fusion is definitely coming in as we’ve been saying since the 60s it’s five years

[00:28:01] away uh one of my favorite companies I advise is a company called paranova and it’s a perovsky company right so folks folks need to realize you know not all solar is made the same uh there’s solar thermal where when I’m flying from here to Las Vegas and I fly my plane over these solar thermal all these you know that tens of thousands of mirrors all pointing the Sun at the top of this Tower where there’s a molten salt and it’s driving a generator that’s great and then there’s photovoltaic which are silicon and those are typically converting at like 20% efficiency but then there’s this material called perovskite and uh you and I were on stage talking about this years ago I had we saw this I think in 2013 or 2014 yeah it was in the labs for a few years now it’s gotten to commercial scale uh the only issue now is maintenance and how long will they will they last before they need but they’re very inexpensive and therefore that gives you huge opportunity here’s the numbers uh conversion rate rather than like photoal

[00:29:01] take at 20% these are at 30% higher conversion rate uh and it and has the potential theoretically to get up to the mid-40s and it’s like 40% cheaper than silicon um and doesn’t use rare Earths because it’s a widely available flexible and uh can be used in space so paranova is one that I’m I’m tracking in that regard um I I think energy you know if Trump is successful in his notion of we’re going to become the the most rapidly generating Energy nation on the planet uh that fuels massive tipping points across everything yeah I think the only issue there is um uh climate and environmental concerns and nuclear trumps both of those so nuclear kind of energy explosion pun intended uh in the US would be amazing from a generation perspective well I was in conversation with Eric Schmidt again in Riad and we

[00:30:01] were talking about energy and he was like listen um we’re going to solve the climate crisis by virtue of new breakthroughs in Ai and I you know one of the things I’m seeing is countries are saying listen I know we made these commitments for you know reversing carbon emissions but we can no longer abide by those because we need to produce more energy to win the AI race and we’re going use AI to solve our climate crisis later thoughts well two thoughts one is it’s nation states can solve climate change that’s the wrong construct to do it and therefore we’re trying to do it at a country level through the UN and through cop doesn’t work and it will never work and hasn’t never worked at all that’s number one number two it’s clearly need a technological solution because even if we stopped all fossil fuel emissions today there’s still too much carbon in the atmosphere hence the carbon extraction exerprise which is so important that exerprise is running um

[00:31:02] so just by by the side for folks who don’t know uh I was able to get Elon to put up $100 million for a an X prize to remove carbon out of the atmosphere in the oceans we launched that about 5 years ago or so and we are going to be basically uh awarding that in April of 2025 so stay tuned it’s coming up very quickly that’s an unbeliev and what I remember hearing was there’s massive numbers of teams that have applied and equally in rock sequestration water and air and that gives incredible optimism that we’ll find a technological solution I remember talking to Al Gore about this and he said the best way to think about this is we have to run all of our mines and power plants backwards for 100 years that’s how much carbon we have to extract and we have to figure that out it doesn’t matter what else we do we have to solve that problem uh so at leader stock says what jobs will be in demand in the future where should I focus my attention for myself and my kids um at leader stocks I think Focus

[00:32:01] your attention and your kids on what you’re passionate about become a expert in the problem space and then every time new technology comes along apply that to the problem space what do you tell people about jobs buddy uh exactly the same thing because the last few hundred years we’ve been doing education and jobs on the supply side you get become an accountant a doctor an engineer and you’re trying and sell that those skills in the job marketplace now we’re shifting to the demand side where we’re saying what problem do you want to solve and then acquire the skills and Technologies and capabilities to solve that problem and that’s much more fulfilling than trying to figure out how to become an accountant and then spending your life trying to figure out how to sell those skills which is a nightmare which you never want to do because your parents wanted you to do it because they’re IND and so now we can go to the demand side and solve all of that all right one of our last questions from the community here is at GG laab says here’s a philosophical question what if sleep was embedded into every single organism so that the simulation can save energy what’s your take I love that I I’m clear that we’re living in a

[00:33:00] simulation I don’t know how you feel about it no no we’re on agreement on this I think you had the best framing of it that that life is too goddamn interesting to be alive right now it has to be a simulation yeah um I think of it the following way when you look at all the research on sleep the only viable me means and necessary conditions the only reason actually we can figure out that we actually have sleep is to do backend processing and filing of all the sensory um things that happen to us during the day and therefore it’s like it’s like literally a batch processing of your day’s inputs uh and which lends itself completely towards the fact that we must be living in a simulation because of the computational needs to sort out what happened and get ready for the next step all right I’m going to hit three final questions here so the first one it’s the end of 2024 what are you focused on right now um what are you focused on I’ll tell you what I am I’m focused on uh what of the broad um civilization institutional Transformations need to

[00:34:00] take place and how do we get there that’s my big MTP anyway wow okay uh it’s project I’m focused on the release of my new book uh called Longevity guide book how to slow stop reverse aging and not die from something stupid and uh that’s coming out on January 3rd yeah uh and it’s it’s for me it’s one of the most important books my goal is get it out into the world I’m providing it at cost to anybody uh if you buy on Amazon Amazon it’s twice the price uh but I donate those funds to the ex prise Foundation if you go to longevity guidebook.com you can get it with a bunch of other benefits uh at the cheapest possible price all right what are you not focused on um selem so what are you not focused on end of the year I’m not focused on everything that happened during 2024 I I want to put this year behind me as fast as possible it’s one of those things when you’re an entrepreneur you go through ups and downs and this has been a tough year yeah and it’s not about the politics so no no nothing to do with politics just sheer startup chaos and Madness you had

[00:35:02] you had some Madness that you’re over now and you’re dominating and you’re winning and I’m excited for you brother I am not focused on politics I am uh I don’t focus on the past at all really so I’m like you know just forward Vision I’m trying to be more present uh over the holidays here and the third question here is do you take time off during this time of the year if so how do you spend your time how about you buddy uh absolutely um I’ve got a stack of 45 books on my bedside table that I’m trying to read uh and about and God knows how many podcast episodes I’m trying to get to also every year Lily and I do kind of an endof year completion to kind of really put the bow year in a bow and wrap it up and kind of go okay seal that away and then also visioning for what do we want to see accomplished as a family as careers as as from a health care perspective for the year coming so we’ll we’ll work on that together that’s beautiful uh I love this time of year it’s me time it’s uh

[00:36:01] it’s a chance to actually do some deep thinking I’m focused on trying to get clear about what is my stop doing list what do I take off the table what boards do I resign from what things do I stop doing how do I refocus I think can I just comment on that it’s you know Steve Jobs used to say as a product the hardest thing is to what features not to include and I think the stop doing list is such a critical thing because we overload ourselves so much I I need to take that I’m writing this down right now stop doing more stuff as long as long as these podcasts with you and me are not on your stop doing list because I love them too much uh the other thing is it’s a time to write so I love writing um I’ve got you hate writing I hate writing okay I love writing uh that’s fine I’ll do the writing for both of us uh I’ve got uh my book uh next book after a longevity guide book is called mindset Mastery

[00:37:00] it’s about 70 80% done and then Steven Cotler and I just sold a book to Simon sister called age of abundance which will come out in 26 yeah and it’s and Steph’s such a beautiful writer I’m always learning from awesome he’s awesome can I tell a very quick anecdote very quick I remember when Steve Jobs died I got a ping from Vogue asking would you write a little summary article about what happened and etc etc I was like I can’t I’m in the middle of running an executive program I have no time and Steven kler pings being goes are you crazy do you know how hard I work as a writer try and get into they’re asking you and you’re saying no go you know I’ll help you and I and I wrote the article and he edited it and and godamn the skill he made two little tweaks that made the whole thing pop and it and it was like goddamn the skill that people like thought can bring to the table I want to do a quick shout out to you Peter I I think it’s what one of the things that’s so amazing collaborating with you is there’s people that can think at a very very high level and there people that can execute like hell and get done and you have this

[00:38:01] unbelievable skill of being able to do both the top and the bottom and getting done and I envy that so much about you I love you brother I’m so happy to be partnering with you in so many different ways uh good luck to the open EXO Community uh at s Ismael is your is your handle isn’t it it is and yeah Merry Christmas Happy New Year happy Hanukkah whatever your celebrations end of the year I hope you are filled with abundance this is the most extraordinary time ever to be alive all right let’s take our moon shots for 2025 and I’ll see you soon absolutely please everybody go get drunk be well [Music]