we’re building a supercomputer with Intel and we just released um some results showing that the next generation at stable diffusion 3 runs faster on Intel chips than Nvidia chips all those companies will succeed in parallel there’s no worry about competition whatsoever it’s leveraging Talent not replacing Talent it’s an unleashing the creativity of talent instead of bogging down in it so I mean nobody here feels like we’re putting ourselves out of business we’re like we feel like we’ve got more things we want to do than ever could one person by themselves with no in-house team no W2 employees build a company worth a billion dollars I don’t know what you think I think it’s possible as we automate more and more of our economy we’re just going to aim higher and go for bigger wins every room we walk into there’s all of these adjacencies we never knew existed before and these are opening up before us they’re literally um materializing please sir the from London uh I uh wanted to find out from invincible
[00:01:00] uh I mean perhaps you already know this and I’m sure you do but it’s a marketing opportunity uh all of us here are CEOs of our companies or have enough money to start companies if you could make us as individuals AI Savvy in whatever we do we can then transpose that information onto our boards onto our companies and that might give you a lot more business business that’s a great observation what’s the question the question is can you sort me out uh my life yeses I love that so so that so that I can use AI more efficiently in my you know that’s why we’re here that’s why we’re here there’s an app for that yeah please please come meet with my meet with our team we’re here at the booth and we’d love to get to know you and build a relation ship we’re a very
[00:02:00] relationship driven business and this is you know it’s not just a today thing uh in the last 12 months think about how much innovation has happened um in the next 12 months there will be more Innovation so um just like Lord of the Rings there’s not one ring to rule them all in AI um there’s there’s going to be so many different apps and models the question is how do you integrate them into your business and that’s an evolutionary okay I’m going to I’m going to Def default to like 20 second answers let’s go to uh goom on Zoom last year you were talking about building up country models have you have you proceeded with that uh and if so uh what’s the result uh yeah so we’ve done uh Japan about to release Spain and about a dozen others and the plan is to go to probably 100 cultural models by this time next year and then open data sets for all of them so you can take them and remix them with all the other models that everyone else has as well thank you going to Robert on Mike one yeah hey this is uh for imod um just
[00:03:02] following up on you were showing yesterday the 100 cats per second and and how good we’re getting at that uh H how long just super simple H how long till I can take my favorite book or or novel and just feed it into the computer and have the computer make it a movie or a Netflix series um if it’s a very big computer in the cloud about two years two years until we can do that yeah I it won’t be real time but yeah I’d say two years because movies are made up of lots of short scenes and we can already do short scenes and now it’s all about how we bring it together does anybody un here disagree with that how long till a good movie well Netflix making a bunch of Clips is not what a movie is I would argue I have a Counterpoint which is the editing of stitching scenes together is a very deep art form I I would guess that that’s the longest to be automated could you agree yeah that’s why it’s two years not one year all right let’s go to Yash and like to here hi I have a
[00:04:00] question for Dave uh Dave uh I come from India I’m a venture and growth Equity investor there what and India is relatively a uh nent landscape for AI what would be the first three Investments that you would make uh whether it will be infrastructure oriented uh if you have to start investing with uh harnessing artificial intelligence over there that’s really really easy actually because the first question we had is the answer to your question uh if I were in India where where millions of people have taken Alexander amini’s class who was on stage yesterday huge educated AI ready population meanwhile companies like you just heard are saying how on Earth am I going to act on anything I’m seeing today so if you connect those two dots what they should be doing is investing at the seed stage in groups of 10 or 20 people that you assemble and then you say okay but then you be the first customer for what we just created and guarantee me my my first 5 million of Revenue your company will Skyrocket in value you can do it 30 times in a row
[00:05:00] they’ll actually get the delivery they need on everything you’re hearing in this in this session and will will that be different from uh invisible uh with the landscape and the uh uh the does it needs to be customized for India or can something like an invisible only come and do this this will it end up competing in something like an it doesn’t matter it’s almost exactly what happened when the relational database was first in invented and every company needed one all of a sudden and there must have been 50 or 80 successful companies that were delivering in all the different vertical sectors and it wasn’t until 5 or 10 years later that they all aggregated and Oracle bought a bunch of them and but you don’t have to worry about that for years what matters right now is that there there’s never been a technological shift this quickly and this globally impactful before and and the the analogy to the relational database is is a joke it’s like this is hundreds or thousands or millions of times bigger than that and it’s much more urgent so all those companies will succeed in parallel there’s no worry about competition whatsoever over the
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[00:07:00] meaningful human connection through imagination wonder and awe and my question is about digital well-being because we want to use Ai and we want to use it mindfully and it’s a time when there’s a lot of noise in the world so what advice do you have about people who are interested in Wonder and awe like me using them in spatial immersive environments how to do that without increasing the noise factor and all of the static I mean one of I think the challenges we’re going to face is just like with uh our use of GPS if we’re not careful it can erode our ability to navigate like me I can’t I can’t figure out which ways I know up and down that’s about it yeah um and so interestingly enough I’ve actually you this is going to be a little controversial perhaps but I can I’ve started to be able to tell who uses chat GPT for their thinking like like for their thinking the people that use chat GPT all the time they actually start to think in a sort they sort of feel a little like a gusy and
[00:08:00] blur of the internet um and so I think as we think about what it is to create well-being we need to be thinking about how do you create a developmentally aware set of AIS so that you know at any time where a human being is and what is the next possible place they can move such that it removes the dependence on the sort of teacherly authority AI versus like creating greater dependency amazing let’s go to Charles on Zoom Charles hi thank you all um um Sim I’m going to start with you okay I’m trying to build an exponential organization and um so one of the first uh requirements is staff on demand so why don’t you uh debate inv visible about how you would use them and even bring in uh say on a marketing campaign and then bring in uh Steve Brown and and and Britney as to how you would um uh do the investor relations for this um for this business
[00:09:01] thank you did I think you just answered the question um so the obvious thing to do is in in an ex so you want as small a resource footprint as possible and partner wherever possible right so a partnership with something like invisible is fantastic because you just go help me sort that out what I love about the model is they’re helping you build that muscle and over time it’s going to be really important to have as much musculature inside your organization to be applying some of these tools then you can maximize leverage and and impact from that and if you want Britney to do your earnings calls she’s available good David here on mic three David I’m curious about using AI to uh make myself the best person I can be and um just open to The Forum are there any recommendations you have um should I be uploading all the emails I’ve ever written all of my journal entries is there is there a way to get myself into AI so that I can learn more about myself
[00:10:01] is that a worthwhile effort and uh should I be you know documenting my thoughts every day my inner cyclosis um yeah just curious about that the AI are doing it already so don’t worry about that you want just start talking to it yeah I think a lot of people that are uh users and creators on top of the AI stack are worried that they’re not deep in the foundation of it but when Snapchat went public $ 20 billion valuation it was 5,400 lines of code it was just tiny tiny little thing on top of all the tech what you’re seeing in media right now is you know the question earlier was how long till we can create a featurelength movie just by voice prompting it but that’s not the target what in media what’s taking over is short form Tik Tok Instagram YouTube short form so with AI on top of this it’s going to there’s going to be media that’s billions and billions of dollars that’s long before a featurelength movie
[00:11:00] that’s the wrong target so so I think anyone who jumps in is going to find that you can build micr communities around any topic you know uh if you have anything interesting to say in the world at all you’ll find followers and you can use the AI right now as a force multiplier for yourself no matter what you’re your mission is so whatever you’re good at and whoever is interested in what you’re doing you can immediately act on it you don’t have to worry about being you know where Rami is you know very very few people are where he is in this world many more people are on top of it but there’s a huge opportunity let go to Pete Mike too okay um I would like to know if you have an idea about uh how it will have an impact on it infrastructures uh mostly data centers uh where will you put uh those infrastructure they will be larger or smaller I don’t know I mean the trend is to go larger data centers bigger clusters GPU d dominant right at at the moment gpus are
[00:12:02] are are the best uh type of computer to run uh these AI algorithms and and higher bandwidth right because you’re trying to achieve data parallelism do some model parallelism even uh because the models are too big to fit in any one uh memory and so faster interconnect bigger clusters more power that’s the trend so far right unless something comes in disrupts that yeah most most data centers historically have tried to be close to the customer and the user to keep the latency down you don’t have to worry about that you want to be close to the power supply okay so that’s a big difference there’s also a whole bunch of models where you can use crypto tokens for cloud AI Cloud compute those are getting very interesting so check those out okay let’s go to Blake on Zoom hi everyone uh thank you guys for sharing with us today it’s been amazing I’m just wondering as we get better at the Automation and consolidation um of all of these tasks what is the end goal that we see as far as um the number of companies that we
[00:13:03] are all going to have the opportunity to build is and then the the lack of Need for people within those companies it seems like markets could get oversaturated so I think uh for the invisible teams specifically where do you guys see um the corporate space in five years um us all running companies that we don’t necessarily have to put time in to run I love this question Sam mman talked about the oneperson Unicorn could one person by themselves with no in-house team no W2 employees build a company worth a billion dollars I don’t know what you think I think it’s possible as a matter of fact it’s not a new idea about a hundred years ago there was an economist named Ronald co uh and he realized that it was possible in the future to have more and more of your team be outsourced do you know that only 5 to 10% of knowledge work is outsourced today by 2050 do we think it’s going to
[00:14:01] be a higher number maybe 25 to 50% maybe that one person unicorn has 99% of their team on invisible and that’s exactly the future that we’re powering now but I don’t believe that we’re going to get to 90% on employment I think that if the nature of the firm shrinks because of technological cap capabilities there’s just going to be a wave of Entrepreneurship all this Talent gets liberated to do new stuff um there will still be things that humans can do the computer still can’t so thank you for that question just just add to that Peter and I did a whole podcast about we needed three people a three person team could create a billion- dooll company a vision guy a product guy and and a builder uh and and uh Sam of course went to one uh but think about the idea if you go down where Steve is going where you essentially get to fully autonomous AI building its own companies right now things get really weird and I think navigating this is going to be pretty much dominating the business landscape
[00:15:00] for the next decade or so which actually brings up the next really important point which is right now there is an incredible amount of money going into figuring out how do you make AIS aligned how do we make sure they do what we say they’re going to do but if an AI is wielded by a corporation that isn’t aligned with all of our best interests it’s not really an aligned AI so I think a major opportunity for everyone here to start thinking about is what are evals the thing that evaluates an AI what are evales for corporations because when corporations punch they can punch a hole in the Amazon if they’re just out there operating autonomously that’s incredibly dangerous nice I would say you know we we’ve had ways to align corporations for for many decades now I think that applies to having AI work workers within your Workforce um to me the future is not necessarily unemployment it’s actually corporations maybe being 80% AI 20% humans but we have way more
[00:16:01] corporations and we’re far more ambitious with what we do right ultimately if you think uh you know like a physicist the system will grow and try to unlock more for energy so does that mean colonizing Mars because there’s a lot of oport out there potentially right there’s a lot of upside but it’s behind a lot of challenges and so I think as as we automate more and more of our economy we’re just going to aim higher and go for bigger wins yeah Gil brings a really important it’s the abundance mindset right it really is we are there every room we walk into there’s all of these adjacencies we never knew existed before and these are opening up before us they’re they’re literally um materializing right the adjacencies everybody I want to take a short break from our episode to talk about a company that’s very important to me and could actually save your life or the life of someone that you love company is called Fountain life and it’s a company I started years ago with Tony Robbins and a group of very talented physic positions you know most of us don’t
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[00:19:00] listeners all right let’s go back to our episode my question and comment has to do with ownership and and and power right so there’s five or six companies that right now are setting themselves up to pretty much own everything and what I don’t hear about are decentralized systems uh decentralized llms that could work like Bitcoin or ethereum can work where no one actually owns the network but there’s incentives to contribute use provide CPU G puu power uh etc etc and it seems to me that this would be society’s uh golden opportunity to have no one necessarily own these networks um just like in the future I think no one is going to own decentralized finance and curious if you have an opinion as to why we’re not hearing more about this um I just read about Project Morpheus which I think looks really interesting but I’m not really reading a lot about any kind of big movement in this direction yeah so go to go to huggingface doco and look at the number of models that are there
[00:20:00] that are open source and it’s something like 600,000 now and that means there’s probably like a couple million entrepreneurs at least because there you know I don’t think everybody has their own model but there’s there’s a lot of entrepreneurs doing a lot of things decentralized and that are super empowered now so you hear about the big Tech thing and you look at their demos and half the time they’re faked or they don’t work but all the cool stuff is being done by these small startups and superpowered entrepreneurs so I think the actual oppos that is happening a year ago I was exactly where you were I thought oh my gosh it’s a winter take all thing you know that Microsoft open a is going to take take everything now it’s like oh my gosh that’s a commodity like the it’s a thousands and thousands of flowers blooming right now yeah when I set up stability originally it was meant to be a dow of dows and decentralized then I realized there wasn’t much intelligence in web 3 so I had to build it first um so yesterday I just joined the board of render for example and we’re going to use hundreds of thousands of gpus to create synthetic data sets for media and
[00:21:00] there’s more coming along those lines like we’ve had 330 million downloads of our models on hugging face already and the next step is how do we decentralize it give ownership to everyone so with the national example for example we’re talking to governments can we give ownership of the governance of the data to every citizen in every country because I think this will actually become less about the models as amazing based models they’re like graduates and more about who controls and earns the data yep and those data sets are un hugging face too and and I really just want to applaud emod what you’re what you’re building and doing it’s it’s a beautiful Vision uh let’s go to zoom uh Andre you Peter one quick thing just go check out a token called hypercycle which is trying to do this um democratizing AI compute in the cloud and people can build their own models and and just bring in computer as they needed so there’s some amazing stuff happening in the decentralized web 3 world onto Zoom Andre you thank you Peter this could go a bit wrong both my kids are still awake and my wife is on
[00:22:01] business trip love it they paid attention for sure their question is how can they buy the Google Glasses but let me ask my question that I asked you yesterday Peter um we’ve seen Nvidia share go from I don’t know increase to $885 right raise more than $600 as uh they increase their power on AI computation my question is a bit twofold one is did you guys see this coming that the company could could grow so much within a year and the second one is do you guys see any other company following that could you know bring good T to help on this that’s a great question I’m sure your I’m sure your kids asked you that question too uh so I I I saw I saw Gil you’re you nodding yeah I mean in Nvidia was uh you know what was it a year a year and a half ago the price was irrational everybody who’s a practitioner knew that Nvidia is so dominant uh in the AI space
[00:23:03] because of their compilers and their Hardware um what doesn’t make sense to me at this point is why AMD is not really on their tails uh and it has to do with software with Community with open source uh you know friend of mine George H George Hots is working on the compiler for EMD so you know if something happens there and you know he has a lot of influence that could catch up so that’s kind of like public companies obviously in the private space um we’re trying to be the next Nvidia obviously for those reasons uh with a fundamental paradigm shift and that’s the only way to as a very small player uh disrupt an incumbent um but overall I would keep my eye in the public markets on AMD first and then potentially Intel as kind of uh next up eventually the the advantage has to be eroded uh to some extent I’m curious who’s who’s thinking about uh Intel right now and its ability imod yeah so we’re building a supercomputer with Intel and we just released um some results showing that
[00:24:01] the next generation at stable diffusion 3 runs faster on Intel chips than Nvidia chips all right and the ga3 chip is the same as a b00 in speed pretty much on a price performance basis but everything will commoditize there and it’s about the entire sector going huge this is one of the biggest infrastructure Investments ever so you can play the beta to the sector from AMD to Intel and Nvidia probably still isn’t done it’s still new 34 times earnings Stacy are you in the room here Stacy’s one of our Patron who’s a senior VP at Intel uh let’s go to Pete hi guys I’m the data center guy so Gil I need to find the Venture Capital firm that I could put money into because I want to invest in you today not tomorrow I want to help you get there but my question is besides the data center guy I got a killer software app that I need help growing and so for the invisible guys do you do I want to get it right from the beginning so will you help a startup yeah we work across the complete Spectrum we work with companies with 5 10 people just getting started all the
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[00:28:01] talent industry myself holistically uh building recruiting companies matching companies and and similar things I think at the core everything uh will also be about Talent here I mean we have had this wonderful debate about the future of AI and you know long-term is it a threat or is it a an abundance is it a blessing I think everybody can obviously agree though that it’s going to replace Talent people out there and of course it’s an it’s a paradox that some of the best new non-biological talent in the world is created by great biological Talent as yourselves gentlemen or the women by the way uh on the stage right now the women on the stage where’ Caroline go yeah but on that point uh you are wonderful individual biological talent and we’re creating Solutions now to replace uh biological Talent out there
[00:29:00] in order to reallocate resources of course the future so people can do even more what they want and I do think that’s a blessing but in the meantime for the next 5 10 years we know things are going to go fast what do you think about the future of talent the future of the workforce because that is I think something we can all agree to that there needs to be some kind of fixes there because it’s going to go fast and you don’t want to have a major social unrest in the world when those 100 billion people are replacing the by olcal talent and what what’s the future of Education to what are our kids going to train themselves into the there’s like amazing hold on let let me address the future of work side first because we’ve done a lot of thinking about this and we’ve watched this over uh decades now it turns out when you look through human history when there’s a major automation of something right uh the instant reaction is oh my God we’re going to have millions of people out of work what actually happens is we create a ton more work that needs to get done okay I’ll give you a specific example in the 1970s when we
[00:30:00] created Bank ATM machines there was a all sort of hand waving going oh my God millions of Bank Dos what will we do with them Etc what actually happened was the cost of running a branch dropped by 10 times the banks created 10 times more branches and the number of Bank Dos has not changed at all same thing with truck drivers as we automate truck drivers go to any trucking company and they’re like we can’t wait for autonomous trucks because we have a we would hire a thousand truck drivers if if we could find them right now we have an underemployment problem today not an unemployment problem okay can we say what happens to the talent though well as you as you automate what seen in the study Taran Southern should be up here to answer this question where are you are you are you out there who Teran Taran Southern she said the most beautiful thing Yer to say she said she described how how this has affected her she used to be 90% process 10% creativity now it’s 90% creativity 10% process so it’s leveraging Talent not replacing Talent it’s unleashing the creativity of talent instead of bogging
[00:31:01] down in it so I mean nobody here feels like we’re putting ourselves out of business we’re like we feel like we’ve got more things we want to do than ever we’ll just write 10 times more code 100 times more code Don yeah guys um I’m trying to revive Europe by creating well 21,000 people who are those entrepreneurs that can be a unicorn oneman show and I get asked all the time okay where do I start because so much stuff is happening and I was wondering now that I have you on stage what is the one thing of the last 12 months that you handed over to Ani or the one task you would say for anyone becoming this one person unicorn where do you start what’s the first skill that they should acquire after they got their mindset right well the first thing you need is an MTP or your massive transformative what fundamental problem do you want to solve and then everything Cascades from there okay so if you go read the EXO book that Peter and I wrote there’s a whole chapter on how you build one with steps in it so it’s it’s pretty clear and we
[00:32:01] now have a community of 35,000 people that are just building exos non-stop that’s what I meant if they have the mindset right so I assume they have the MTP what’s the first skill that they then acquire so it’s not about skills today it’s just about getting out there and doing right so step one is your MTP let’s say it’s curing cancer okay step two is go find communities that are doing that or join communities or create communities that are interested in that step three you create your founding team of one people three people whatever the small number is step four you find a breakthrough product or idea that will deliver at least 10x better than the marketplace in one specific domain around that yes if you’re 10% better the market will ignore you if you’re 10 times better you can’t be ignored and then you follow Lean Startup thinking get to an MVP and continue cascading online and we’ve watched this process be copied and used now for 10 years with staggering results so just go do it it’s about EX execution not skill acquisition
[00:33:00] please I have a very simple question how which page are we in the copyright books papers what do you think this is exactly what happened when Google was growing like crazy it wasn’t clear at all that scraping the internet and indexing it was legal under copyright law uh and Google grew through it and then said hey you know just put a tag on your website if you don’t want us to scrape it but everybody didn’t put the tag because everybody wants to be searchable on Google this is growing so quickly that the same thing will happen people are going to use the AI billions of dollars of Revenue is going to flow people like uh Reddit are saying hey you can’t use our content without paying us a fee that’ll blow over in a minute because you know at the end of the day there’s so much Capital flowing in nobody’s going to be want to be left out of it so it’s it’s literally not going to be an issue if you don’t contribute your content there’s equal content out there anyway so it’s just it’s literally not going to be a a problem it is a threat to everyone who has copyright uh
[00:34:00] but there’s no stopping it at this point thanks where where is the best way to find worldclass Capital Partners if you’re an AI startup oh it is so easy right now if you go to go to any of the Venture Studio models any of the demo days and work backward from who’s attending the demo days those are your targets or if you get a pitchbook account I don’t know if you use pitchbook it’s a little pricey shows you every deal that’s happening in the country and you can work backward if you’re looking for that that idea where three four five people are worth a billion you can easily sort find it and look at what they did and that answers the prior question about Europe as well [Music]